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Big firms I have worked at still using Java 8.

Dead.




We have an app that also needs to be able to run on Android, so we are held back by the shitty Java Google implements for Android.


You can use [limited] Java 17 with Google's Android. The compiler converts Java 17 -> Java 8 bytecode.


I agree that many companies are “stuck” (through their own choice really)… but at least Java is moving now.

In many ways Java’s boringness is a feature that keeps it easily maintainable, at a low - easily recruitable - skill level.


At least you can now run Minecraft 1.7.10 on Java 17 - https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/lwjgl3ify


What a marvel of engineering.


A lot of Apache projects still use Java 8 :(




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