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Drinking slows down my brain and reduces the number of threads running in parallel. Sometimes very useful to enable normal-passing interaction in social environments. Or just to be able to focus. Lots of people with ADHD drink to achieve a more single threaded experience.

Edit to add: I don't meant to encourage drinking as a tool for managing ADHD. It works but it's a blunt and dangerous tool. If you're at that point, you'll absolutely love the results you get from the healthier strategies: Understanding yourself; developing a suite of tools that don't involve a slippery slope; and curating your social and physical environment carefully.




This is a very common theme in neuro-divergent communities. Used occasionally it can be great, but if you become dependent on it, it is trouble.

In that sense it reminds me of Alan Watts writings on LSD. Get the message and then go away and work on it, don't get fixated on getting the message. As a transient thing some drugs are neat, but to become dependent on them is a dangerous thing.


Interesting analogy. I feel like I talk and think faster when I'm drunk but am also more focused and can hold less in my mind. I'm wondering if it's because I'm switching into single threaded mode instead of multi-threaded mode, and that single thread is actually faster, but more limited.


Interesting. Ever tried coding when drunk? So far, we’ve got programming languages named after caffeinating drinks, but none named after alcoholic ones.


Ballmer Peak comes to mind https://xkcd.com/323/. The right amount of booze to keep that single thread of execution focused on the programming task!


Drinking drowns creativity. I can do many many things almost properly while drunk, but one thing I can't do is write anything good.

It's possible that's what we're after when we drink: stop the flow of ideas. That's one meaning of "stupefy".


Are you sure?

>Alcohol has played a central role in the creative lives of some of the most famous authors of the last few centuries. Lewis Hyde notes in his essay Alcohol and Poetry that four of the six Americans who have won the Nobel Prize for Literature were alcoholics, namely William Faulkner, Eugene O'Neill, Ernest Hemingway and John Steinbeck.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/booze-as-muse-write...


No, I'm not sure, but it could go either way. It could very well be that those authors had no other choice than drown their overflowing creativity in alcohol in order to survive / tolerate themselves.


From what I have read, they all wrote when they were sober, not when they were drunk.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/henrydevries/2018/12/11/ernest-...


In "Hunter: The Strange and Savage Life of Hunter S. Thompson", it's made very clear that Hunter did _not_ write while he was sober. An excerpt of his daily schedule -

9:00(pm) starts snorting cocaine seriously

10:00 drops acid

11:00 Chartreuse, cocaine, grass

11:30 cocaine, etc, etc.

12:00 midnight, Hunter S. Thompson is ready to write

12:05-6:00 a.m. Chartreuse, cocaine, grass, Chivas, coffee, Heineken, clove cigarettes, grapefruit, Dunhills, orange juice, gin, continuous pornographic movies.


The OP was talking about "William Faulkner, Eugene O'Neill, Ernest Hemingway and John Steinbeck"... "what about Hunter S. Thompson?" isn't really a good argument. He's not considered a great writer in the grand scheme of things, I think he's better known for being a drug addict.


The idea, since it appears to have been lost on you, is that there's a long history of great writers (like Thompson) using drugs while they created. The Thompson quote is one of many, I think that's the part you may be misunderstanding. Truthfully, I'm surprised that a single Forbes article which quotes a "Michelle Stansbury, PR expert and founder of Little Penguin PR" is enough to have convinced you otherwise.


Find an article that says that great works of the English language were produced while the authors were drunk then?


And sometimes, that's just fine; you can't / shouldn't be "on" all the time. Give your brain / creativity a rest, let it relax. Be kind to yourself.


Maybe; but I have a feeling alcohol hurts more than creativity...


> Drinking drowns creativity.

No, drinking drowns your creativity.


Untreated or late diagnosed ADHD people are ridiculously overrepresented in drug & alcohol recovery programs. It's honestly chilling and it prevents me from taking this in the probably more lighthearted spirit that was intended.


Fun fact! Over 50 percent of people with untreated ADHD will have problems with substance abuse at some point in their life!

Oh wait, that isn't fun at all.

ADHD is real and untreated it can (and often does) destroy lives.

(Also: People with untreated ADHD have 3x the gen-pop rate of car accidents!)


Current thinking is ADHD is caused (at least in significant part) by a lack of dopamine or an insensitivity to dopamine. They’ve found links between genes that cause dopamine resistance and ADHD.

Many current ADHD medications cause increased levels of dopamine. This is a leading theory on why they work.

Wanna guess what a lot of other drugs, including alcohol, do in your brain?

It’s been amazing since I got diagnosed relatively late in life exactly how many other things suddenly made so much more sense and clicked into place. And amazing how quickly decades old substance abuse habits started to taper off once my brain chemistry was less fucked.


Yep, and thankfully the FAA will allow you to fly with undiagnosed untreated ADHD but not with treated ADHD. Because the NTSB gets bored, I guess.


It wasn't meant to be lighthearted at all. It was just meant to be honest. I've been to the depths of the things, and I wish I knew how to help others not go there.


People with ADHD tend to be impulsive. you know what drugs are great for? Impulsive people.


Adhd is a particular personality configuration, mostly being high in Big Five trait Openness and low in Conscientiousness. High openness is correlated with impulsivity


This rings true. I went to a reasonably well known engineering school, so...some selection for ADHD folks. As someone diagnosed with ADHD young, it was frightening to see how many of my fellows were 1) clearly struggling with ADHD, and 2) were destructively self-medicating with alcohol (or worse). And it hasn't stopped. Decades later there's still those folks who are hammered at every social function and a good percentage of them I think "yeah...self medicating the noise in their head". I certainly understand the appeal (I'm no tea-totaller), but long-term, booze is a work-around, not a solution.


> This rings true. I went to a reasonably well known engineering school, so...some selection for ADHD folks.

Can you expand on this. Do you think think engineering schools select for ADHD? Just curious, haven't heard this before.


I think he means the other way around. Engineering fits for many neuro-divergent people. Especially ADHD and some types of autism.


Yes, this. Sorry I was being a bit flippant and that wasn't clear.


The hyperfocus which is a symptom of ADHD helps give the tenacity needed to make progress when faced with frustrating challenges.

In engineering, tenacity is absolutely required to make any progress at all, but there are also seemingly infinite threads to pull on.

If you’re in hyperfocus mode and you’re working on something, you don’t run out of interesting side tracks or ways to keep digging down through the foundations under what you’re working on.


I'd add that I've done this in a the past and the main issue with treating ADHD with alcohol for me was the weight gain.


Took me way too many years to understand this


maybe you should read up about parallelism and (multi)threading

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/806499/threading-vs-para...


If you think my comment conflated them, maybe you should.


i do know the difference but i think i get your point. you use it as an analogy for context switching. the classic adhd "i can't do anything productive when waiting for something".




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