"admitting that SF has a crime problem". It does have crime problems, drug problems and homeless problems. Since this topic was about violent crime sure you can admit it has a violent crime problems but it's no more than normal, in fact below average in the USA.

It's the same demographic around here that pride themselves with thinking they are cold hard rationalists that also steadfastly refuse to look at SFs actual violent crime statistics to compare to the rest of the country.