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> Not recognizing that they are the problem.

How are they the problem? They bought one house and occupy it as a family. That's fair play by anyone's measure, I'd think.

If more other people want to move into the town than there are units of housing for them and, as a result, bid up the housing that's available, it's not the fault of the people in the town who bought one house 10 years ago and have lived in it for those 10 years.

We bought our place in 2007 (and lived in it continuously). It's worth roughly 2x what we paid for it. That's a CAGR of just under 5% per year. Was that a good investment? Hard to say, but let's look: The S&P total return was a CAGR of 8.5% over that time, but would have been 8.5% CAGR on X (downpayment amount) or about +2.4X. The house was 4.8% CAGR on 5X or about +5.4X.

Along the way, we've spent around 0.8X on repairs, improvements, and maintenance that I can think of and around 1.1X on taxes and insurance. Mortgage interest (after taxes) was another several X. Our house is vastly more pleasing to live in than our old apartment was and we've had two kids and a dog here comfortably for 15 years. The non-financial aspects dominate the financial aspects, but for a property that's appreciated about inline with inflation, it's been OK financially and great psychologically.




It is quite easy to understand why they are the problem. Of course, they are part of the problem, but this is the comment section of a forum and not an official statement from a public figure.

The reason for the absurd rise in housing prices is that not enough housing is being built to meet demand, and the main reason is that homeowners (obviously not all, bear with me if I generalize) and their cartels oppose any new development. It is a problem with a very simple solution, made complicated by people who make money by throwing smoke. A good place to start is to look at how other countries or regions have solved the problem. It is somewhat parallel to homelessness; there is no will on the part of politicians and institutions to solve a problem that is easily solved (from a system perspective).

The housing stock is fixed because certain interests (i.e., homeowners and real estate investors) want their capital to increase in value and/or their neighborhoods to remain sculpted over time. The calculations in the comment are, outside the specific case, largely irrelevant: dilapidated houses infested with rats and mold in desirable locations have increased in value 10-fold over 20-30 years because the housing stock has not increased over time.


They are not the problem directly. There's however just no intrinsic reason for the valuation to go up unless:

* investors bought out most of the housing and made it "scarce" or otherwise inflated prices - tacit cartel is common

* the area has been restructured to make it impossible for non-rich people to live there even if they get the housing for free (gentrification)

* people cannot inherit property as they cannot pay the inheritance tax on the inflated valuation

* there is an external scarcity factor like well paid jobs or at least opportunity for them

Note that lack of space to live or overloaded services actually tends to depress prices.

The statement already implies the people live there for a long time and have focused on the valuation for some reason. They will give their inheritors a problem they cannot pay off and have to try to sell. The ones being able to buy such property are likely to be investors. Now multiply that times a lot and you have the shape of the problem.


> people cannot inherit property as they cannot pay the inheritance tax on the inflated valuation

I don't understand the mechanism by which this would represent a driver for the valuation to go up. This effect would seem to be small in any case, but also tend to reduce (not increase) prices in its small effect, all else being equal. Unless I'm misunderstanding your point somehow.


The valuation is always extrinsic, and as such, a tacit cartel.

Property should depreciate. If you hear that it doesn't, there's a massive structural problem, likely one of the described above.

And these people using the property thinking they're gaining something are not doing anything about it, dooming their heritors.


Land goes up in value. We have more people and more demand.

Structures get repaired and renovated. My house is over 100 years old but I just pumped 700k into it. Does its value not increase?

Homes are expensive to maintain.


Buildings should depreciate with wear (in real [after inflation] terms). Land should not, at least not land used for residential purposes.




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