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ObXkcd: 386

"Debate" and "listen" are not the only two options.

Debate, specifically, comes from a mode of communication called rhetoric, or persuasive argument.

There are other forms of communicating, including simply narrating or relating an event or position, entertainment, and others, one of which is dialectic.

As I've commented a few times over the years here, confusing dilectic and rhetorical conversation is one of the oldest confounding points of conversations in the book --- it's what Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle wrote on at length (particularly Plato railing against the Sophists, that is, rhetoriticians, and Aristotle's Sophistical Refutations, a/k/a "bullshit arguments that must die" to put a contemporary spin on it.

Derek's entire premise strikes me as ... extraordinarily blinkered here. If you find you want to impart your own wisdom, it's possible to do so other than through raw debate. In particular, the mode of simple discussion or Socratic Method, in which you ask questions which (might) lead your interlocutor to reach the conclusion you're suggesting on their own seems especially valid.

"Had you considered X" or "How would you address Y" being possible entry points for that.



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