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"The solution is simple - keep using old gasoline vehicles to save a few dollars, which cause massive emissions even while the country suffers megadroughts, winterstorms, wildfires, coastal homes are being flooded and hurricanes grow more intense every year. We pay more in the future, but at least this years budget looks good. If anybody complains, point the finger to China and India."



Sure, you can operate at a significantly higher cost base with more people and more equipment traveling more miles to achieve the same outcome with less emissions, but that's a bit weak.

Best way to get much broader adoption of EV's in transport is to use them where they will work best, rather than burn peoples fingers with projects that introduce huge operational issues.

Remember, one of the key rules of transport management is "reduce idle fleet", so telling a transport manager to save emissions by having loads of fleet idle is a bit like telling a CIO to reduce energy use by giving their developers smaller monitors and taking the graphics cards out of their computers.


Does the garbage truck fleet cause massive emissions? I feel like this is a strawman argument. Global warming is real and as a society, we need to change our ways, but I'm not sure that things like municipal utility vehicles are going to be the difference between us making it as a society and not. And if we were to have to choose between which vehicles should be electric vs ICE, it's clear that there is a greater societal benefit to the municipal vehicles.

If Americans were to make a slight change in their meat eating habits, I'd imagine the effect would be orders of magnitude greater than all the garbage trucks in the US, let alone just NYC.




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