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We have very high unemployment. Also, the national identity and cohesion is swamped by a far too large influx of foreigners. There should be an immigration moratorium. Essentially zero people should be let in until there is robust job growth.

There should be a much longer moratorium on granting foreigners citizenship. Immigration rates are far too high and on a course to create serious overpopulation problems in north america. https://www.numbersusa.com/content/




It's exactly this thinking that can kill science and startups. That there is unemployment, does not mean there is unemployment in every branch of the industry. In branches, where there is a lack of qualified workers, you need to take in immigrants, or you will become uncompetitive.

Also, remember that there are many people who just want to work in a different country temporarily because it is good for their career+. E.g. here in The Netherlands, we have a high influx of Chinese students and PhD candidates. But nearly all of them return once they have a degree (a degree from a Western university usually gives them good positions in China).

+ There seems to be a widely spread belief in the US that the rest of the world is envious, and would preferably want to live in the US. I have been in the US very often, but I'd never want to live in the US permanently. Social welfare, healthcare, paid leaves, pensions, etc. are so much better arranged in West Europe.


> this thinking that can kill science and startups

If an industry does not employ the native people in a country, or only enriches a clique of owners, then who cares if it leaves? In any case, this line of argument is malarkey. There is no evidence of restrictive immigration driving away business. Typically you just get an industry with higher capital investments and higher wages.


> If an industry does not employ the native people in a country, or only enriches a clique of owners, then who cares if it leaves?

That's a pretty extraordinary premise. Do you have evidence to support the idea that Silicon Valley only enriches a clique of owners, or that it wouldn't employ Americans? Or is this purely hypothetical?


I for one, would welcome the entire Silicon Valley to move somewhere else.


Perhaps you could get some actual idea of what goes on in the visa process rather than spouting mindless nationalistic rhetoric.

It's not like the visa process allows unskilled, unemployed workers to pour into the country. It's a lengthy, expensive process that allows employers to hire for jobs they couldn't otherwise fill from other available candidates. This brings intelligent, educated and skilled immigrants who are perfectly capable of paying their own way and who bring a massive net gain to the US.


It's true that the overall unemployment rate is alarmingly high, but my understanding is that the employment rate among software developers is quite low. In my area, at least, my sense is that there aren't enough developers looking for work to meet the demand for their labor. I guess it's theoretically possible to train unemployed nontechnical people to write code, but I don't see any viable plans to make that happen.




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