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> GDP is a concrete measure that is difficult to fake

The best counter to that I've ever heard:

"Let's say I pay you $10M to eat a pile of shit, then for kicks you pay me $10M to eat a similar pile of shit. You know what the end result is? The GDP has increased $20M, and we both have huge shit-eating grins".

The GDP is laughably easy to fake.




> "Let's say I pay you $10M to eat a pile of shit, then for kicks you pay me $10M to eat a similar pile of shit. You know what the end result is? The GDP has increased $20M, and we both have huge shit-eating grins".

If people were buying piles of shit for $10M, then that is what the GDP would be. That's not faking GDP.


No, the shit is free. People are just paying each other to eat it.

It’s not literal, it’s just an illustration of how easily the gdp can be faked.


> No, the shit is free. People are just paying each other to eat it.

Still the same answer. Services are counted as production.

> It’s not literal, it’s just an illustration of how easily the gdp can be faked.

Of course it's not literal, but that's just not faking GDP. What do you actually think GDP is a measurement of?


This interpretation of GDP requires that price is equivalent to value. Good luck convincing anyone, even hardcore free market essentialists, of that notion.


LMAO I'm sure that sounded great in your head, but if that service was actually worth 10mm, both parties would have to pay taxes on that income when they report it to the gov't for inclusion in GDP. Yes this applies even if no money changed hands: https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420

And yes there are workarounds, but clearly it's not that easy to manipulate GDP. If anything, you want to underreport these numbers so you don't owe as much.




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