Where did the C3 crew say the service was fascist?
As far as I understand, he showed up to Congress and did a Hitlergrüße (Nazi salute) to their security. In Germany that is illegal and arrestable, so he should actually be grateful they only kicked him out and did not call the police. Germany has very strict laws against video-recording people without their consent, so creating this video would be considered another crime.
I can't speak for the content of the video itself, but I would imagine that most Germans would see "throwing someone on the floor" as a reasonable response to making the Hitlergrüße.
> As far as I understand, he showed up to Congress and did a Hitlergrüße (Nazi salute) to their security. In Germany that is illegal and arrestable, so he should actually be grateful they only kicked him out and did not call the police.
This is simply not true. Before the C3 took place, Michael required Vincent to remove all the unfunny stuff from his website to be able to register an assembly for C3. However, Vincent did not agree to this, so he didn't register an assembly.
Then, during C3 on the 27th Dec, Vincent sent out a tweet that he's on C3, and so he and a few users of his email service met informally, but not as a cock.li assembly. It wasn't a huge crowd, I think like 5 people(?).
Michael then approached Vincent and said, that he wouldn't be allowed on the premise. Vincent then offered to take it to the Arbitration Board, which was specifically set up for situations like this: When someone experiences sexism/racism or discrimination of any kind, they should take it to the AB, where the awareness team tries to find a mutually agreeable solution. Michael didn't like this proposal and just told him to leave within the next 5 Minutes.
Apparently the short-haired girl, which was following Michael, did not want to wait 5 Minutes. That's when Vincent sent an audio recording to himself and switched to video recording. That's what you see in the first post I made.
The phone which Vincent used for recording was seized by security. However, confiscating cameras or camera phones is the sole responsibility of the police or the bailiff. Stewards and security guards are not allowed to do that.
> Germany has very strict laws against video-recording people without their consent, so creating this video would be considered another crime.
This isn't true either. You are allowed to record if you have legitimate interests in recording the current event, e.g. when a friend gets knocked down to the floor by other people, as the others would be free to leave the scene if they really wanted to. However, you are not allowed to release the footage to a public forum without the consent of the party that displays the helplessness.
from my recollections , he was asked not to go, and he went there to ‘troll.’ he went to a gathering he was asked not to attend with the intention of being annoying, the hosts removed him.
i can’t think of a single bar, restaurant, etc in the world which won’t eject someone when they intentionally cause trouble. particularly if the person has been told they aren’t welcome.
why do some people struggle with this extremely basic rudimentary thing we teach every child—if youre annoying on purpose, people will treat you like you’re an annoying person.
just because some want to rename ‘be annoying’ to ‘trolling’ this doesn’t change the response you’re going to get.
again, this is super basic stuff. if you go out of your way to annoy someone, people get annoyed. very basic. it’s not shocking. it’s not scandalous. it’s basic behavior.
As far as I understand, he showed up to Congress and did a Hitlergrüße (Nazi salute) to their security. In Germany that is illegal and arrestable, so he should actually be grateful they only kicked him out and did not call the police. Germany has very strict laws against video-recording people without their consent, so creating this video would be considered another crime.
I can't speak for the content of the video itself, but I would imagine that most Germans would see "throwing someone on the floor" as a reasonable response to making the Hitlergrüße.