This seems the epitome of "AI applications" that ride on human
weakness, insecurity and disconnection. It's an application for people
who have no friends. Any other sincere and observant human being can
help you be a better communicator if you feel comfortable asking them
to criticise your performance.
Is this a value judgement or you're just saying? "This app rides on human weakness" sounds like negative framing at least. Because yes, if you had good observant friends, it reduces the need for this for sure. But the human weakness, insecurity and disconnection is already there, and some people have no friends and have trouble communicating well. I think it's good to be skeptical of instances of this kind of work in terms of the details like how it respects the users privacy and treats their data sensitively, and whether or not it's selling an effective method, but at least it's sort of aimed towards good.
Also ad tech is the epitome of AI applications that ride on human weakness ;)
> Is this a value judgement ... sounds like negative framing at least.
Yes it is a negative value judgement. I am not trolling or being
unnecessarily provocative. I think that, on balance, some technologies
are likely to make things worse. Not in general, but to specifically
counter the very aim they set out to solve.
> the human weakness, insecurity and disconnection is already there
I disagree with this. On several levels. Some people have different
abilities and personality for sure. But the insecurity and weakness I
speak of is societal (weak interpersonal relations in a single-serving
microwave meal culture), and is caused by precisely such
disconnecting technologies. This kind of technology creates less
incentives to develop human interpersonal skills and ultimately saps
confidence. The user learns to simulate confidence.
> I think it's good to be skeptical of instances of this kind of work
in terms of the details like how it respects the users privacy and
treats their data sensitively, and whether or not it's selling an
effective method,
I think it's important to be sceptical generally. That makes one a
good technologist and not merely an implementor of random ideas that
we do "because we can". All the things you mention are hot topics, and
I agree they need scrutiny. But there are wider and more complex
factors to remain sceptical of, such as the social impact of
technologies.
> but at least it's sort of aimed towards good.
I have great faith and optimism in human beings, these things are
always "aimed toward good". I make no judgements about the motives of
the developers (which I think is already a few steps more charitable
than some of the insinuations I've seen in comments). I'm getting
down-voted because I dare to commit a heresy of asking deeper questions.
> Also ad tech is the epitome of AI applications that ride on human
weakness ;)
I think I understand where you're coming from, and largely agree.
Regarding societal weakness/insecurity stemming from disconnecting technologies, I view that as something that's happened to a large degree, and it shapes chunks of the modern landscape as I see it.
Technologies that help to correct that are valuable. Dependencies on others force the development of interpersonal skills, and maybe something like this discourages someone from joining an association like toastmasters or similar. That would be a shame. But on the other hand, depending on the users own flavor of neuroses it may help them feel comfortable enough or develop the interest to prompt them to do something more social. I really don't know, I could see it nudging my past selves either way.
Regardless, thanks for your response. I did need a reminder to take a wider perspective in this context, I appreciate it.
> depending on the users own flavor of neuroses it may help them feel
comfortable enough or develop the interest to prompt them to do
something more social.
Absolutely. I agree this is real utility. I guess I'm concerned that
these are actually outliers used to justify a more troubling
project. And maybe more people have crippling anxiety disorders only
treatable by machines than I care to admit. It actually reminds me of
the arguments around anti-depressants as a gateway to proper
therapy. I do hear you.
The title wasn't clear, so I thought it was a tool for learning / improving in a new language (you know, pronunciation, accent etc). I wonder would it be useful in that regard? Because for me, conversational Spanish or French would be difficult because I don't interact with native speakers.
> not sure that telling unconfident people that they re weak and have
no friends helps
You're right. That would just be mean and rude. But I'm not doing
that. I'm telling confident people (like the developers and fans of
this software) that they ought not to mislead people who lack
confidenve into beleiving a web application can substitute for real
friends.
I'm not sure where you get the impression that people who would benefit from this tool have no friends. That requires some quite absurd mental gymnastics.