I haven't bought M1 nor M2. My last Apple computer was a 2017 MBP and I'm not risking it anymore.
I've had MBAs, MBPs, iMacs and the only working Apple computer I possess is a pre-Cook design: MBA 2012.
Everything from Cook era went to shit or was shitty from day one. I've had iMac which caught dirt under the screen, went for repairs (was accepted as iMac with dirt under a screen with no additional issues) and Apple refused to repair it saying that it came with broken screen (and they gave me my iMac with replacement disk and screen cracked from how they apparently opened it). I literally had papers saying that the computer is accepted for repairs with no visible damage and papers stating that they refuse to repair it due to cracked screen. After they have replaced a Seagate disk under some replacement program.
I've had MBP 2017 which went for repairs shortly after being bought due to barely usable keyboard. They replaced the whole case and keyboard for the same unusable trash. It's a mobile computer you can't write on which nobody wants to buy. It used to be easy to re-sell Apple laptops.
Jony Ive and Tim Cook cured me of any fanboyism I might have had from the Jobs era.
I'm happy for all the satisfied users of current Apple's computers and I can only wish you that the "upgrade" won't be shitty and your current hardware won't became the next "2012 MBP" or "2015 MBP".
> I'm happy for all the satisfied users of current Apple's computers and I can only wish you that the "upgrade" won't be shitty and your current hardware won't became the next "2012 MBP" or "2015 MBP".
This is such a cynical take I don't know if I should laugh or be concerned that you were affected this badly that you never want to consider a mac again.
I've owned a 2010 MBP and then switched to a windows laptop because the apple laptop market didn't seem to offer any discernible advantage and it was much more expensive. Was a barely satisfied windows/linux laptop user until I bought the M1 Air. My god, that laptop is incredible. I bought it after the glowing reviews, and its not failed. The battery life is incredible, it's light and it runs circles around much more beefier windows laptops. It seems like magic. For the price point, last year the M1 was such a no brainer. It's a pity you've forever written off anything they do.
Imagine living somewhere where Apple hardware is considered luxurious goods due to enormous gap between earnings and its price. Quality of the hardware is the same but Apple's support is way worse than in the US or even many EU states.
Most people can either afford used stuff or pay Apple with their _savings_ for new and shiny. And then their hardware gets broken during authorized repairs or the new hardware has quality of Chinese toys.
When it happens not once or twice but with majority of your Macs, you think over your choices and considering Mac purchase a risk is not that far off.
I actually don't have to imagine this. I don't live in a "western" or affluent society.
> Most people can either afford used stuff or pay Apple with their _savings_ for new and shiny.
While this has been historically true, more recently this is not true. Of course you can't but a brand new $500 Apple laptop, but for < $1000 you'd be hard pressed to find a better laptop than the M1 Air. The closest comparison is the Dell XPS and it's much more expensive, less performant, and has way more issues. Also one of the biggest reasons people buy apple laptops is because most of them easily last 4+ years. All mine have, and so have many of my coworkers and friends. I'd be lucky if my windows laptop crosses the 4 year threshold without an issue.
> the new hardware has quality of Chinese toys.
I'm assuming you're being hyperbolic here, but it kinda makes your whole response sound ridiculous. Even the biggest Apple critics generally agree hardware quality is much better than most western manufacturers. Have you ever used a Chuwi laptop?
> When it happens not once or twice but with majority of your Macs
I guess you've been extremely unlucky. Some people get shocked by lightning multiple times. I wonder if they stop going outside.
> I'd be lucky if my windows laptop crosses the 4 year threshold without an issue.
Just one of my Apple laptops stayed fully functional after 4 years and it was the single non-"Pro" laptop: MacBook Air 2012, bought in a rush (so store-spec'd with 4GB RAM). And after 10 years it's still the most useful Apple laptop I possess and RAM size is its biggest issue.
I found that not expecting more than 2 years of lifetime from a laptop (any laptop) is the most reasonable and healthy approach for me nowadays. And I respect that you may have other view on the matter.
> Of course you can't but a brand new $500 Apple laptop, but for < $1000 you'd be hard pressed to find a better laptop than the M1 Air.
We may have different approach to what's "better". Specs? You're probably right regarding some (and majority thereof) usecases. Usability? Different thing. I expect my computer not to break and I expect my operating system not to change things that work over night. Not a case with Cook's Apple's hardware nor software in my experience.
> > the new hardware has quality of Chinese toys.
> I'm assuming you're being hyperbolic here but it kinda makes your whole response sound ridiculous
I'm talking about the utter trash made by Ivy&Cook in 2017, called MacBook Pro. This was the purchase which made want to stay away from Apple's computers and this feeling is strong 5 years later (see? Cook is influential after all).
Until Linux is reasonably stable and useful (I'm not even waiting for "fully functional") on M1/M2, I'll stay away from these to avoid ads and other marvels coming to the garbage called macOS which replaced OS X.
I don't despise Apple as a whole. Just the current state of Apple under the leadership of unimaginative pencil pusher Tim Cook.
> Some people get shocked by lightning multiple times. I wonder if they stop going outside.
To borrow from your wonderfully colorful reference, I still go outside - just stopped standing with my hands up in the open field during lightning.
I've had MBAs, MBPs, iMacs and the only working Apple computer I possess is a pre-Cook design: MBA 2012.
Everything from Cook era went to shit or was shitty from day one. I've had iMac which caught dirt under the screen, went for repairs (was accepted as iMac with dirt under a screen with no additional issues) and Apple refused to repair it saying that it came with broken screen (and they gave me my iMac with replacement disk and screen cracked from how they apparently opened it). I literally had papers saying that the computer is accepted for repairs with no visible damage and papers stating that they refuse to repair it due to cracked screen. After they have replaced a Seagate disk under some replacement program.
I've had MBP 2017 which went for repairs shortly after being bought due to barely usable keyboard. They replaced the whole case and keyboard for the same unusable trash. It's a mobile computer you can't write on which nobody wants to buy. It used to be easy to re-sell Apple laptops.
Jony Ive and Tim Cook cured me of any fanboyism I might have had from the Jobs era.
I'm happy for all the satisfied users of current Apple's computers and I can only wish you that the "upgrade" won't be shitty and your current hardware won't became the next "2012 MBP" or "2015 MBP".