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> charging something something

But charging is (well, would be, I don't have EV) annoying. I usually fill the gas tank once a month or two and it takes 15 minutes including the trip to gas station. The ~500km distance I get from full tank is enough to cover my car use for a long time.

So yeah, having to charge more often, having to find a place to charge at, all of that sounds quite inconvenient and I do not want it.

Related question since you seem knowledgeable about EVs: What is "passive drain" on an average EV? Do I still have "full tank" after not touching the car for two or three weeks?




People who have a charger at home (even a slow one) seem to usually have the opposite experience: they plug the car in when they arrive home, without having to worry about trips to the gas station. The charging problem is mostly about street-side parking where that doesn't work.


Assuming you own a house or at least a private parking spot and can install a charger there, then yes, I do see the convenience.


Here in Germany new buildings are now required to provide parking for their occupants, and anecdotally the ability to install a charger is now a big selling point for buyers and renters alike (some form of FOMO: better have that ability in case you want an electric car in the future).

Of course it will take decades until even half the population lives in buildings built after ~2020, but parking spots with chargers will become common over time.


Not the person you replied to but I also drive an EV since 2021. I have a Tesla Model 3 (LR) and after leaving it for three weeks it only lost around 3% battery. Also, I have a similar distance I drive monthly and I only charge it once.


Good to know, thank you.


> well, would be, I don't have EV

This I think is the crux here. You don't have experience so you think how it would be different .. and different is .. bad?

I have an EV and my experience is:

- when I get home and I have a feeling that next drive might be long and need charge, I plug it in. Next day it's charged.

- if there is a drive long enough to need charging (for me happens very seldom) I go and get a coffee at a fast charger

- petrol car fill up was about 130EUR, the electric to do the same distance between 2 and 40 EUR depending price of electricity and whether I do fast charge.


> when I get home and I have a feeling that next drive might be long and need charge, I plug it in

Sure, let me hang down the cable with electricity from the 3rd floor window of the apartment building I live in, that will work great. (Can I even charge the car from regular socket? I would hope yes, albeit slowly I assume.)

> You don't have experience so you think how it would be different .. and different is .. bad?

For me the car is a handy tool, so don't care much about "feel of the motor" or whatever. But the tool should be practical. So in this case, when I compare 5m to fill the tank and pay to 25m (Level 3, here [0]) to charge the EV, the gas variant comes out as superior. And the car itself is cheaper. And has bigger range (well, not that that one matters too much to me. Anything over 400km would be enough for me).

So I just don't see why I should prefer EV (disclaimer: I'm not sold on the whole "it's greener" thing, for multitude of reasons).

0: https://mechanicbase.com/electric/how-long-does-it-take-to-f...

> petrol car fill up was about 130EUR, the electric to do the same distance between 2 and 40 EUR depending price of electricity and whether I do fast charge.

At current gas prices, full tank is ~43 EUR for me (using conversion rate from google). At my income (low by US standard, reasonable by the local ones), that is low enough I mostly don't care about it since it's once every month or two.

Out of curiosity, might I ask what car did you drive before? 130 EUR for full tank sounds... like a lot. So I'm wondering if it was due to car being huge or due to gas price.


Not op, but current gas prices in european country: 1,8€/L

43 EUR would buy me 24L at most. And with my car I could travel 184km

70L full tank costs 126€

An economic car would go 430km for 43 EUR


Given that when I tank "full" tank it's usually about 27l, I just did not realize some cars have 70l tanks. I know little about cars :)


Pretty common for SUV’s/trucks. Mine is 80l, $100 fill - but it doubles as my house.




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