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> The majority of those immigrants are likely from other European countries with similar cultures and backgrounds.

Nope. Please stop guessing. Only 35.4% were born in Europe. It's no wonder you come to your terrible conclusions if you just make things up and don't bother to look up trivial facts.

> If you take in too many immigrants you'll just destabilize Switzerland

This is just racism.

> Switzerland

Why should anyone listen to your racism when you're confounding Sweden and Switzerland when it's written right in front of your face?



>> If you take in too many immigrants you'll just destabilize Switzerland

>This is just racism.

It's not in fact, it's well known that if the immigration rate is too high (and this limit gets lower the more incompatible the cultures and people are) in any country you get political instability.

>Confounding Sweden and Switzerland

Sorry, I'm an American. Everything in Northern/Western Europe that isn't France, Britain, or Germany kind of blends together. It shouldn't matter anyway though right?


> It's not in fact, it's well known that if the immigration rate is too high (and this limit gets lower the more incompatible the cultures and people are) in any country you get political instability.

It really is because you're missing the part about where we all have massive immigration and don't have "political instability" (quite the opposite really.) Total first and second generation immigrants here are 25%. Every 16th person is a first generation immigrant originating from outside of Europe. We're still number 7 on the Human Development Index in the world (the US is at 18), and within the top 5 for standard of living. Our murder rate is 1.08, while yours is 4.96! What's this magical threshold that we need to pass in order to get the food riots? Where do you get these ideas?

You're not going to change your mind even a little after what I'm telling you?


If you're going to compare homicide and demographic statistics in the US then you should remember that:

1/10 black people here are first generation immigrants which is extremely destabilizing to their communities. Remember that these communities account for the majority of homicides here (according to the federal government.)

While 75% (really closer to 85%) of your population is native or White only ~60-50% of the US is now (depending on how you count.)


So you're not going to answer any of my questions and drag up more debunked racist talking points?

Poor people commit murder. Black people in America are poor (because history but also because America is still extremely racist and won't lift a finger to make up for that history.)

> 1/10 black people here are first generation immigrants which is extremely destabilizing to their communities

You're not thinking this through. 1/3 of our non-European immigrants are first generation, so your racist theory would predict that we would have an even higher murder rate than you have.

Actually, only 2.8% of your population is native.


>1/3 of our non-European immigrants are first generation

Ok, so that's about the same as what's going on in the Black communities. Maybe have a look at the homicide statistics for the places these immigrants go and I'd bet you'll find a very similar picture.

>Your racist theory would predict that we would have an even higher murder rate than you have.

No, again these nations are more racially homogeneous. They're able to absorb much more of this right now than we can.

>Poor people commit murder.

That's not the whole picture, you can compare poor Black communities and equivalently poor White communities and the Black ones have a much higher rate of crime. Whether that's due to institutional racism or things like this (which I would argue is essentially just another kind of institutional racism) is up to your interpretation.

>Make up for the history

What do you want us to do? We already net negative on the average Black person due to social programs. We're legally barred from discriminating against them in any meaningful way (to the point that many are starting to ask to bring discrimination back.) Should we burn the country down again for them this year? None of the living people were involved and if you look carefully you'll find it was largely the Jewish population doing that. Should we go down that rabbit hole?

>Actually, only 2.8% of your population is native.

Because the nations that used to exist here were overrun by foreigners. Those ended up driving the population out of their lands and tried to eradicate their culture. This kind of thing is what I'm arguing against but you're hung up on skin color and not seeing it.




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