No, these are people who think that because they run linux and compiled a kernel once, or jail broke their phones, they are "elite". These are the people who inhabited slashdot in 2001 and said, upon introduction of the iPod "no wifi? lame". Who said the iPhone would be a failure because it didn't have a physical keyboard, who denigrated the iPad is "just a big iPod", and who complained that Apple sucked because they had no marketshare, until Apple stared dominating and they used that as an excuse to claim Apple sucked.

In short, just the kind of posers who overwhelm hacker news.

What I actually meant was that your comment: "Frankly, if Steve Jobs is not one of your heroes, you're not a hacker in my book." is as ridiculous and preposterous as the opposite version I posted. Please don't try to categorize hackers or HN users like that.