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What contrast do you want? A billion to one? At some point it's excessive, right? So there's some value less than infinite that you're after. Why is your monitor's maximum contrast the right value?



Yes, billion to one. Or at least like 1000:1, which todays monitor easily achieves. Whatever maximum contrast value of whatever monitor I look atm is OK, anything lower is not (including OLEDs). I don't get why we should be "forced" to look at #aaa text on #eee background "contrasting" text. For me, even #222 is "too much", to the point I usually notice something is off and then Imma mess with inspector and fix colors, which is annoying, takes my time, and wastes CPU cycles, especially when one tries to use some plugin to fix this automatically. The extension is usually CPU hog, so the "low contrasting text websites" are actually harmful to society much like needlessly JSheavy sites.


I was, in fact, making a cheap shot at how hn decreases the contrast on downvoted comments.

I apologize for any intelligent discussion I may have caused.


There's actually a book that studies this by measuring readability of print articles by seeing how far readers got: Type and Layout by Colin Wheildon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1875750223/

The research upheld the "any color as long as its black" popular wisdom for text, but found that black text on a ~15% tinted background (any color) did not impede readability. (Deeper background tints impeded readability.)

> Why is your monitor's maximum contrast the right value?

Please give me maximum contrast and let me adjust my monitor.


When ever there are discussions about accessibility there are always voices calling for "moderation" ... does every building really need a ramp? why does every single restaurant need an accessible bathroom? do those people really need all that contrast?


...and in response to your initial two questions, however rhetorical they may have been: yes, every building needs a ramp and every restaurant needs an accessible bathroom. You may be fortunate enough never to need the second one, but you likely hope to live long enough to need the first. (I needed ramps long before age would’ve normally dictated it — stuff happens — so I tend to get a bit perturbed when people wonder about the necessity of ramps.)


My oldest friend needs a wheelchair to get around now (lyme disease). It was definitely rhetorical.


But you can exceed accessibility requirements without using absolute black and white.

And for example some people require larger fonts for accessibility reasons - but we don't make all website with 100 point fonts do we? Instead we use tools to magnify the screen - the same way your OS can increase contrast for you if you need it. There's moderation there.


I get the point you are trying to make but ... maybe don't make it?

We don't actually have an issue with "too much" accessibility.


The point is: we should strive to make accessibility parametric. If someone wants 50 pt fonts - let them. If someone wants 100 pt fonts - let them. If someone wants high-contrast - let them. Don't hard-code it, because you're making assumptions about people's accessibility requirements.


Is the maximum contrast always the most accessible, for all people?

No, it isn't. This is not like a wheelchair ramp.


A billion to one sounds reasonable to me. Now if only I could find a reasonably sized OLED panel...




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