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As usual the discussion pretends to be about the thing, when it's actually about the semantics.

The Great Lakes are measured, mapped, sounded and recorded. We know an awful lot about them, and that hasn't changed lately.

The discussion isn't about them. It's about the definition of 'sea' and 'lake'. Superior, Michigan, Huron, Erie, and Ontario are still there and whatever they are, they're doing it now.



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