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We can semantic and pedant this all you want.

But fundamentally you and I both know that Spotify has made rules that say you can’t write a script to download all the songs as MP3s or OGGs or whatever.

If you want to break those rules, go nuts. But don’t hide behind terminology. You’re taking something somebody else doesn’t want you to have because you feel like you’re entitled to it.

Just fucking own it.




You'd be correct if you didn't word it as "taking". Nothing is being taken from anyone, and this might seem like semantics to you but it's an important point when piracy is being discussed. When piracy happens, the net result is that there's more of it in the world, which is contradictory to theft.

If you think that's immoral or should be illegal, it's a separate discussion. The point here is that for that discussion to be had the distinction needs to be made.


No, I’m still correct.

You are taking possession of something you don’t have rights from the original owner to possess. This is true even when the original thing remains unchanged.

Again, I’m not interested in debating the definition of theft/piracy/copying/whatever. It’s a very tired argument made by people who want to validate their decisions and actions.

Just say, “I don’t care. I’ve talked myself into thinking there’s no issue with me doing this so I’m going to do it.” The lengths people will go to argue the semantics of this shows me how clear the issue really is.


I'm not surprised you're not interested in debating the definition of theft and piracy, considering that doing so would invalidate the inflammatory comment you made originally. It's very easy to keep the moral high ground when you refuse to engage with a subject in good faith while strawmanning every argument proposed, and that is something I'm not interested in engaging with.




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