It gets harder every year to find tax software that isn't owned by intuit... I don't think any of it is free anymore for anything beyond basic returns. The IRS' paper returns get more complicated every year. It seems Intuit is winning this despite all the complaining.
"Cash App Taxes" is owned by Cash App which is owned by Square/Block Inc. It used to be owned by Credit Karma, which was bought by Intuit, but they (were forced?) to sell it.
Yes, the Justice Department mandated that they jettisoned it as part of the sale, as they knew what Intuit would do with it if they got their paws on it.
I'd been satisfied with TaxHawk in the past, but when my tax situation changed this time around I tested it with the same inputs as TurboTax with upsells costing 10 times more. After getting the same results on both, I gladly used TaxHawk again.
But TurboTax does a great job. It’s a good product. Happy to pay for it. Not sure why all of the hate. The problem is the tax system itself, not the software.
They have dark patterns every step of the way to try to get you to pay more and to share your tax information. Their "free" is oftentimes not free. And on top of all this, there are countless articles about them lobbying to maintain the status quo of complicated taxes.
What does that have to do with original 'almost 0 time' claim?
Also complexity of american tax code didn't come because of turbotax/intuit. Do you really think we have stuff like credits for home improvements, credits for student loan payments ect are in tax code because of intuit?
There are politicians right now trying to cram in more and more tax code because those incentives are incredible popular with American public. All this is not because of intuit.
You got me "almost 0" was hyperbolic, I'll be more specific: In multiple countries personal taxes can be completed with little more than a signature, and most are simpler in general... the US ranks near the bottom in terms of complexity.
I didn't say that Intuit caused complex taxes, I said they actively lobby to keep them complicated.
Intuit spends millions on lobbying every year (against simplification efforts, as well as efforts for the government to create its own free digital tax filing system) and has recently pulled out of a federal free tax filing program, and are being sued by the FTC for their use of "free" in their marketing and performing bait and switch.
> I didn't say that Intuit caused complex taxes, I said they actively lobby to keep them complicated.
they do? I know they lobby against free website. But i don't see why they nee to lobby for complicated tax code since all the tax exemptions and complexity is widely popular with american public.
I cant imagine a politican running on removing home improvement exemptions to simplify tax code.
They've specifically lobbied against automatic filing on multiple occasions, spanning several administrations, and they've also lobbied against tax code simplification.
Are you engaging in this conversation to seek more information, or in an attempt to defend Intuit? most of these answers are a simple google away.
You are right i can tons of examples and articles for 1 but i am looking for 2 specifically.
tax code simplification isn't the same a tax filing simplification.
edit: Yes i am not saying its not simple. 'Tax code' means something specific, its not a generic standin for anything that has to do with taxes. Tax code has nothing do with tax filing itself. I am not sure how to explain this better.
So you're saying that return-free filing is not more simple?
Going to end it the conversation here and log off for the day, nothing personal, it's just a waste of my time to connect the dots in such a painstakingly specific way.
Intuit has been spending billions to lobby for complicated tax filing process and against the government primarily filling out your forms for you based on data they should already have on hand from mandatory reporting. That's why people hate them so much.
