Let's be honest here: what killed Flash was years of neglect by Adobe. Google removing it from Chrome was a downstream effect, not a cause.

Yeah, I'm old enough to remember how absolutely fucking garbage Flash was, and the source of many a web-based malware that haunted many a Windows user. I don't really blame Apple's decision not to support it. There's no way Jobs would've allowed such a disease prone plugin infesting his new platform.

Are you sure it's any better? Last time I've used a JS heavy site the UX was just utterly awful. Flash had bad bits to be sure but it could be snappy. I had hope we could do better but a lot of sites seem as bad or worse on arguably better hardware.

I'm not sure the tech stack was ever to blame...people would have eventually fixed the bad parts of flash.

> Last time I've used a JS heavy site the UX was just utterly awful.

That's an issue with the web site, not the underlying technology.

> […] people would have eventually fixed the bad parts of flash.

The Flash plugin was a closed-source component. (Various attempts were made at open-source substitutes, but none ever reached a fully usable state.) The only people who could have "fixed the bad parts of Flash" were Adobe employees, and they didn't.

Isn't there a bit of an anachronism in your post? I thought the end of flash support happened before his death.

It was Apple that decided Flash's fate, ever since Steve Jobs refused to support it on the most important end-user platform, like, ever.

Which is funny, because for years Flash only ever ran well on Mac OS 9 in Internet Explorer 5. Any other browser/OS combo and you were looking at dropped frames, and/or audio that couldn't keep in sync with the video. It really was a tool for designers, and accordingly Mac OS was the platform that got the most love.

It’s funny because after his first comments about it’s performance being the reason Adobe magically fixed it in about 6 weeks and we finally had close performance parity with windows after years of Adobe saying it’s not possible.

Anything that damages Adobe’s bottom line is completely justified.

The amount of tech they’ve squandered or mismanaged or just plain destroyed is disgusting.

And over the last 10 years of being a monopoly they’ve just let their software rot and now it’s so janky to use, photoshop even freezes for 4 seconds when switching between selection tools these days.