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I understand why IBM didn't buy Sun that's not what we are arguing about.

Sun was selling products that could only work on top of Solaris. Had IBM bought Sun they would have continued to sell those products (as they were profitable) and likely continue at least some level of Solaris development to support those products.

They would have a had no reason what so ever to make that further development proprietary.

> tamed C into production

I have no idea what that even means. See has been successful in production on literally millions of computers and server around the world.

And if we are talking about usefulness to production Zones and DTrace are about 1000x more helpful then anything Oracle innovated.

> Something that naturally the Oracle haters don't care about.

Yeah people don't tend to care as much what happens in proprietary OS by shitty vendors.




So there you go, an opportunity to learn about SPARC ADI and hardware memory tagging on Solaris.

IBM invented timesharing and containers, no need for Solaris stuff.


Memory tagging isn't remotely new, LISP Maschines and many others had done it before. So by that count they didn't invent anything.

The code for it isn't even public so other could learn for it as Oracle made Solaris proprietary again.

> IBM invented timesharing and containers, no need for Solaris stuff.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by containers here. Please tell me where I can find a non-property Unix that allows me to use these amazing IBM containers.

You seem to place equal value on some proprietary system that people can't actually use, and those that made it available to everybody in Open Source.

Call me crazy but I value innovations more that are in the open and available.


They applied the knowledge of Lisp Machines and created the first commercial succesfull C Machine.

Something where Apple, Google and Microsoft are followers, with ARM MTE, PAC and Pluton, while Intel just borked their n attempt at it.

You can educate yourself on AIX LPAR and System 360.

Yes, I do place equal value in commercial stuff, my FOSS zealot days are a behind me, https://xkcd.com/2347/




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