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Sending one of these viral meme right wing videos…Slanted, edited, partisan stuff isn’t any better than what an average liberal person is thinking.

I hope the next link isn’t to a right wing influencer “owning the libs” by debating college kids who don’t spend dozens and dozens of hours a month on the topic.

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A downside or more so against the “well why not” is time committed to this. There is limited time for things. In the US there was a viral video that showed things that actually occur at the state/provincial level. Where legislators vote for absentee legislators. Something like that should be handled first.

I know two people who didn’t have any form of [valid] ID for a year and multiple years, in each case. Recently. As adults. Forget going through research, studies, and such. Not letting either of them vote seems to be a downside to me. It took months of slowly prodding along to get each identification. Stuff that isn’t easy to do. Takes time. Obstacles that might be near impossible to do depending on your stage in life and if you have no one to help you.

> conspiracy theory

I don’t think being incredulous and doubting the words of major western political parties is a conspiracy theory.

Why are you for a conspiracy to withhold voting from people I know like above? /sarcasm

From a higher up comment: > the idea that the Electoral Commission is going to produce investigations of any worth is sheer fantasy given some of their previous missteps

[Completely] Doubting the electoral commission seems to fall in line with your viewing my take as a conspiracy theory.



> Sending one of these viral meme right wing videos…Slanted, edited, partisan stuff isn’t any better than what an average liberal person is thinking.

It's virality or not is irrelevant, and what slant is possible from the simple questions those people were asked? Maybe you could ask for a livestream instead of a video next time, to remove the edits… but why?

> I hope the next link isn’t to a right wing influencer “owning the libs” by debating college kids who don’t spend dozens and dozens of hours a month on the topic.

If it's relevant then perhaps.

> A downside or more so against the “well why not” is time committed to this. There is limited time for things.

People are so rushed that they don't have time to get ID? You said the "viral meme right wing video" "isn’t any better than what an average liberal person is thinking" and yet that sounds like the responses in the video.

> In the US there was a viral video

This is starting to smell of hypocrisy

> that showed things that actually occur at the state/provincial level. Where legislators vote for absentee legislators. Something like that should be handled first.

No, something like that:

a) can be handled simultaneously

b) isn't relevant to the point we're discussing

c) and I already pointed out that stuff like that should be handled.

> I know two people who didn’t have any form of [valid] ID for a year and multiple years, in each case. Recently. As adults.

And?

> Forget going through research, studies, and such.

So no viral meme right wing videos, and no research, studies, and such. Are we going to be left with only your protestations as valid evidence?

> Not letting either of them vote seems to be a downside to me.

They are allowed to vote, they simply need to provide ID.

> It took months of slowly prodding along to get each identification.

Security is often in opposition to laziness, yes. I do not fall down on the side of sloths though.

> Stuff that isn’t easy to do.

That is utterly false.

> Takes time. Obstacles that might be near impossible to do depending on your stage in life and if you have no one to help you.

We're back to the slanted and partisan video. Maybe it was an accurate portrayal of the views of a certain group of people?

> > conspiracy theory

> I don’t think being incredulous and doubting the words of major western political parties is a conspiracy theory.

You're not being sceptical, you're mind reading and asserting things to be true that can only be so if there is a conspiracy. Not all conspiracy theories are wrong, conspiracies happen, but the desire to paint your opponents as evil and divine their intentions while dismissing evidence contrary to your view and the use of self-defeating logic is a sign of the pejorative sort of conspiracy theory.

> Why are you for a conspiracy to withhold voting from people I know like above? /sarcasm

Did I mention something about painting opponents as bad people?

> From a higher up comment: > the idea that the Electoral Commission is going to produce investigations of any worth is sheer fantasy given some of their previous missteps

> [Completely] Doubting the electoral commission seems to fall in line with your viewing my take as a conspiracy theory.

The Electoral Commission has been showing in open court to be incompetent. Their plan wasn't a secret either. Do you know what a conspiracy is?




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