Agreed. When people say they Google is returning poor results, I can never get an answer of what specific URL people actually want. Just general unhappiness and some mythical, vague, ideal result.

google search often returns wrong, unrelated, or no result. i have been in that situation many times before and moved on to change my query.

i am (and most of us are) trying to solve my own issue. not google's.

that's why you get vague answers to your questions. it's not because it doesn't happen. it's because at that moment we care much more about solving our problem. that's what brought us to google search in the first place.

thanks for engaging, I'm trying to understand. can you give a specific example of a search query, and the ideal URL you think you should get as a result (that google is missing)? what is one query<->result example of a gap these independent engines are filling?