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Endurance: Shackleton's lost ship is found in Antarctic (bbc.com)
343 points by 0xedb on March 9, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 72 comments



“For scientific discovery give me Scott; for speed and efficiency of travel give me Amundsen; but when disaster strikes and all hope is gone, get down on your knees and pray for Shackleton.” - Sir Raymond Priestly, Antarctic Explorer and Geologist.

For those who don't know about this expedition, NatGeo has a good video about it on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgh_77TtX5I


For anyone who hasn't read it, Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage, by Alfred Lansing is a well-written account of the expedition story.


Two more I would recommend in addition to Lansing's that focus more on different specific aspects of that expedition are "Shackleton's Boat Journey" by Frank Worsley (who served as captain of Endurance) and "Shackleton's Heroes: The Epic Story of the Men Who Kept the Endurance Expedition Alive" by Wilson McOrist.

I think anyone with an interest in sailing or maritime navigation will appreciate Worsley's first-hand account of the crossing from Elephant Island to South Georgia in a modified lifeboat[0]. Worsley covers the subsequent crossing of South Georgia's mountainous interior in great detail as well.

And often left out from popular accounts is mention of the Ross Sea Party[1], who endured terrible conditions on the other side of the Antarctic continent to ensure that Shackleton and his crew would have had enough supplies to survive the final stretches coming from the other side of the continent.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_James_Caird

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Sea_party


"Shackleton's Forgotten Men" is a good book on the Ross Sea Party. I've spent a bit of time on the Ice and done some Southern Ocean sailing (neither in the same league as these early explorers, obviously), and think their story is at least on par with the Endurance side's.

"Shackleton's Argonauts" by Frank Hurley (photographer of Endurance) is another good one if you can find a copy.


Also in Spanish a very lovely, ambitious undertaking in graphic novel form:

https://www.luisbustos.es/Endurance


So cool! My nephews will love this. Thanks


The audiobook edition read by Simon Prebble is one of the best I've heard.


I'm glad someone mentioned this. It's an excellent narration of an excellent book.

I've been reading it to my son. It's got so many lessons on leadership, grit, foresight, courage etc. Very inspiring.

One thing that struck me was how sharp a judge of character Shackleton was. He picked the members of his crew after short or no interviews and was vindicated in his all his selections. That must have been a skill learned from time in the real world. Something which might be scorned on today for being biased or something else like that.


I wonder how many DE&I seminars he made his crew sit through.


Dunno. His crew wasn't exactly "diverse" nor was it expecting to be.

He was manipulative in certain ways though I think all those moves were part of his leadership style. He also had personality quirks which jeopardised the situation on more than one occasion. Lansings book mentions an incident where her refused to gather meat when it was available because of some misguided idea of interpreting caution as a form of surrender or weakness that was anathema to his character and ego. He pulled through of course but there are moments when even a few of the the most loyal members of his crew started to have second thoughts about his leadership. I've been reading the book to my young son. He thinks of Shackleton as a hero but was "angry" at him when I read the part about dropping the meat.


There’s also South!, an account of his voyage written by the man himself. It’s public domain now: https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/ernest-shackleton/south


I recommend the 15 hour audio book for long travels https://naxosaudiobooks.com/south-unabridged/


And if you don't have the appetite for a whole book yet, the wikipedia article on the subject is quite well done https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Trans-Antarctic_Exped...


> "Men wanted for hazardous journey. Low wages, bitter cold, long hours of complete darkness. Safe return doubtful. Honour and recognition in event of success."

Well, he wasn't wrong. Reminds me of some job openings.


Maximum age: 25. 10 years of direct polar exploration experience required, 20 years of direct polar exploration experience strongly preferred.


Followed by: "Searches for the original advertisement have proved unsuccessful, and the story is generally regarded as apocryphal."


It shows that "radical" endeavors and orgs have an easier way to find the right set of peoples. And I like the total bluntness of the job offering.


> And I like the total bluntness of the job offering.

It's right up there with:

You'll get paid after we get back. Must bring your own weapons. I have only done this once before. SAFETY NOT GUARANTEED.


Minus the last phrase.


I came here to say the same. Wonderful book, historically accurate but reads like an adventure novel.


I read this a month ago. Excellent book. Incredible story.


I second that.


I remember watching a TV documentary about the Endurance expedition 10 years ago and being flabbergasted.

First, the Endurance is trapped by ice for half a year. Then she is crushed by the ice, and the crew camps on the ice. Then they start a 500 km march, over the ice, carrying the lifeboats, to reach an island. After over half a year (!), they finally decide to start a 160 km journey across the open sea in the three lifeboats. The crew of 27 manages to reach Elephant Island after 5 days on the open sea in wet clothes at temperatures below -20 degrees. The island is completely uninhabited and there is little hope to ever be rescued from there, so they build a new boat out of the three lifeboats, and Shackleton and five other men set out for a 1,300 km journey to South Georgia, which they know has a small whaling station. Here is an image of the boat [0]. This journey itself has is its own Wikipedia article [1] and is considered one of the greatest boat journeys ever accomplished. The rest of the crew is left behind on Elephant Island. Against all odds, they actually reach South Georgia after 17 days in extremely bad conditions. However, they are on the wrong side of the island. So Shackleton decides to cross the island by foot, with 2 others. It's a 40 km journey across a mountain range nearly 3,000 meters high [2]. They have no map and improvise their route. In what was actually the first confirmed crossing of South Georgia, they reach the whaling station after walking, without stop, day and night, for nearly 2 days. Just imagine being placed at that whaling station, at the end of the world, and suddenly seeing these 3 half-dead men come out of the mountains. They pick up the remaining crew on the other end of the island by boat. Then, Shackleton immediately tries to rescue the rest of his crew which is still 1,300 km back on Elephant Island (he has no idea whether they are still alive). This takes another 3 months and multiple ships. Only the fourth attempt is successful. But in September 1916, over 1.5 years after the Endurance was trapped in ice, Shackleton has saved his entire crew. Everybody survived.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_James_Caird#/med...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_James_Caird

[2] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Panorama...


I'm not sure if I picked it up from a documentary or book, but worth noting that the photographer Frank Hurley dived into the ice water and chopped through a wood wall to rescue the glass plate negatives from the sinking ship. I'm not sure what the best source for this is, but it's at least mentioned in [0]

[0] https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/shackletonexped/images.html


The whole crew survived, except for unfortunately the cat, named Mrs Chippy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs_Chippy


> Mrs Chippy’s voyage was not without incident. Storekeeper Thomas Orde-Lees, in a diary entry dated 13 September 1914, relates that "An extraordinary thing happened during the night. The tabby cat jumped overboard through one of the cabin portholes and the officer on watch, Lt. Hudson, heard her screams and turned the ship smartly round & picked her up. She must have been in the water 10 minutes or more".


Somebody really hated that cat


> Everybody survived. How on earth should any sane person find this believable?

With faith in God (and in Shackleton)


Shackleton is the Anti-Scott.


No not exactly.

They were both amateurs in many ways compared to the Norwegians.

Shackleton was a great leader, and managed to survive despite of his failures. But he failed in 3 distinctive ways in the same way as Scott.

* Not understanding the importance of raw meat as a treatment for scurvy

* Not understanding that skis are better than snow shoes

* Not understanding how to use dogs, preferring to man-haul their sleds

Analogously - It is not the failed project that is heroically saved in last minute by a hacker hero that is the best execution. It is the project that delivers on time without anyone noticing any problems.


The English at the time counted suffering as an essential requisite of expeditions. They considered Amundsen as cheating in using dogs and Eskimo gear.

It seems significant that Shackleton's ship was so carefully constructed to endure, yet busted anyway. Amundsen used Nansen's old ship, also custom built for Arctic conditions and veteran of several expeditions, without incident. Norwegian ship builders were maybe more aware of what was needed. As I recall, an important feature was sloped sides, so that squeezing ice would lift instead of crushing it.


> The English at the time counted suffering as an essential requisite of expeditions. They considered Amundsen as cheating in using dogs and Eskimo gear.

Yes, this is also true. "Real men man-haul their sleds". Also they frowned at Amundsen because his project did not have a significant scientific purpose.

Fram - Nansen's ship which Amundsen half-stole/half-borrowed - was constructed by a scotsman by the way. But yes, it was purposefully built for handling the pack ice. It is on display in a museum in Oslo.


Shackleton is the polar explorer I respect the most, mainly for the fact that no-one had to walk heroically to their deaths in a blizzard on any of his expeditions.

Even if you think Erebus shouldn't have been there, the efforts to keep everyone alive get a big thumps up from me.

(Also, his ponies did way better than Scott's, Scott rejected what worked for Shackleton: https://captainantarctica.com.au/meat-eating-horses-of-antar...)


> Shackleton is the polar explorer I respect the most, mainly for the fact that no-one had to walk heroically to their deaths in a blizzard on any of his expeditions.

Isn't this true for Nansen as well?


Shackleton is right up there with Nansen and Amundsen.


Amundsen lost his life trying to help Umberto Nobile and Nobile's crew.


I dispute the notion that Shackleton was an explorer. His career was marked by incredibly dangerous expeditions whose goals were primarily glory and fame. His ability to lead and inspire people to join his adventures is more akin to being a really good cult leader.


I understand that, my two favourite New Zealand explorers (Charlie Douglas and George Dobson), are both very obscure but very admirable IMO - and they're obscure because they were the furthest from glory hounds that you can get. If you can get a hold of this book[0], it's a very interesting read (well, for me, anyway, being a Kiwi and all, especially the chapter where the editor collated Charlie Douglas' diary writings on our native birds, and what they were like for eating, which features some of our now rarest birds, he was quite fond of the flavour of kākāpō[1][2], which is critically endangered now). This article might be easier to access than an out of print book.[3]

But, so many explorers that were contemporaries of Shackleton, like Amundsen, Nansen, Byrd, Scott, etc. _were_ glory hounds. Does that negate their exploration? I mean, it often meant that they took stupid risks to be "first", fully agree there. But if we eliminate the glory-hound polar explorers, there's precious few left.

[0]: https://www.canterbury.ac.nz/engage/cup/catalogue/books/mr-e...

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kākāpō

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1vfsHYiKY

[3]: https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/travels-with-mr-explorer-dougl...


any books you can recommend on historical polar expeditions?


Try "The Worst Journey in the World" [1], there are eBook links from the wiki page.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Worst_Journey_in_the_World


But skip the chapter about what Scott's wife was doing in his absence. The evidence suggests it is all fabrication.

Around the same time period as Scott's crew were dying of scurvy, Japanese naval crews were dropping like flies from malnutrition for insisting on eating white rice and nothing but. And pellagra gripped the American south.


I've just purchased Ranulph Fiennes' biography of Shackleton and definitely recommend that one, also I really enjoyed Endurance by Alfred Lansing, also about Shackleton's expedition.

Fiennes' also wrote a good book about Amundsen and Scott, Race to the Pole.

I've heard good things about "Mawson's Will" by Lennard Bickel.

(I tend to focus on Antarctica due to its proximity and the historical connections to Antarctic exploration in my area)


Another fiction is The Terror: https://www.librarything.com/work/1499548


Season 1 of The Terror TV show is fairly faithful to the book too. It's a pretty fascinating read.


That was great. Season 2 lost me a bit, but Season 1 was top notch. And not just because I decided I love Jared Harris in everything after seeing him in The Expanse as a leader of an OPA faction, and then seeing him in Chernobyl.


The history on the ship itself is also quite interesting.[0] A repurposed bomb ship from the war of 1812, just to feature one aspect.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Terror_(1813)


Although it's a fictional novel, I really like The Adventures of Captain Hatteras.


I come from a sailors family (every male in the family served some years in the Navy, not my uncle, not me -IT Manager). I remember my grandpha telling me the Endurance story, how Shackleton keep being THE Captain, saving his people from a clearly death.

I still have in my mind the marvelous pictures taken by Frank Hurley, the night ones are impressive.

I still have the book from Alfred Lansing, Endurance. It shows you how hard was the life after the Endurance was trapped in ice, and how they manage to survive in one of the worst climates.

Good thing the endurance will be there, protected and resting from the hard journey.


For those who can access it, the Channel 4 drama with Kenneth Branagh is still available for free:

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/shackleton/on-demand/308...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272839/


> The wreck itself is a designated monument under the international Antarctic Treaty and must not be disturbed in any way.

Does this prevent them from entering Shackleton's cabin? With the amazing condition this ship has remained in, I wonder what interesting things they would find in there.


I dunno, I know that people have been preserving relics from polar expedition huts, Scott's and Shackleton's for example.

(You can even buy a whisky based on the whisky they found stashed at Shackleton's Hut): https://nzaht.org/shackletons-whisky/


Apparently some of the gas canisters and canned food from Scotts expedition are still good, and lying around in the ice and snow.


IIRC all the interesting stuff had been removed from the ship already before it went down. But yes, a peek around inside would be interesting anyway.


Interesting to me that Shackelton and the Endurance keep popping up on HN. I happened to read "South" some years ago and it had a big impact on me as someone who loves the outdoors.

I just didn't expect it to keep popping up in a technology focussed community. Yet I can see the appeal. The sheer determination of Shackelton and crew should be inspiring to all people.


A lot of us software devs can relate to Shackleton, because we have also been on a death march.


But Shackleton somehow avoided death marches. Did you mean Scott?


It is pretty amazing how they managed to locate the wreck. Searching by sonar is a very time consuming activity and takes ages just to scan a very small area, with the added issues of interpreting the readings. I wonder what clues they had to narrow down the search area.


"Endurance was found just over four nautical miles (7.5km) and roughly southward of Frank Worsley's famous sinking position (68°39'30" South; 52°26'30" West)." [0]

Truly a testament to the skill of Frank Worsley, Endurance's captain, whose navigation was also essential in successfully reaching South Georgia in a modified lifeboat [1], returning themselves to civilization and calling for help to rescue the rest of Shackleton's men waiting on Elephant Island.

[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-60654016

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_James_Caird


Well, Shackleton must have been a heck of a guy to live the life he lived.

On the Endurance expedition, however, his treatment of Harry 'Chippy' McNish [0], who performed the modifications to the lifeboat James Caird, which was then used to travel across open sea to travel to South Georgia island, and the crew's subsequent rescue, was not a proud moment for Shackleton. In particular, his lack of recommendation regarding the Polar Medal for McNish looks particularly petty in hindsight. But I wasn't there, and I suspect that both Shackleton and McNish were better men than I.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_McNish


Incredible!! I read the book Endurance and it was absolutely riveting. There’s a particular passage where they describe the final boat journey rowing to the northern island that made me turn the heat up a little higher.


The name Endurance is apt, given that it’s so well preserved after over a century!


From Wikipedia about the ship:

> Every detail of her construction had been scrupulously planned to ensure maximum durability: for example, every joint and fitting was cross-braced for maximum strength.

> ...

> Though her hull looked from the outside like that of any other vessel of a comparable size, it was not. She was designed for polar conditions with a very sturdy construction. Her keel members were four pieces of solid oak, one above the other, adding up to a thickness of 85 inches (2,200 mm), while its sides were between 30 inches (760 mm) and 18 inches (460 mm) thick, with twice as many frames as normal and the frames being of double thickness. She was built of planks of oak and Norwegian fir up to 30 inches (760 mm) thick, sheathed in greenheart, an exceptionally strong and heavy wood. The bow, which would meet the ice head-on, had been given special attention. Each timber had been made from a single oak tree chosen for its shape so that its natural shape followed the curve of the ship's design. When put together, these pieces had a thickness of 52 inches (1,300 mm).

So I guess if you build a ship that way for that purpose, it probably will survive for quite a while relatively unscathed (apart from that it has been crushed a bit by the ice).


I believe what really matters in cases like this is that wood doesn't degrade underwater, and that there is very little movement of water at the spot.


The main thing is how little is growing on it, since that makes invariably wrecks look unrecognisable, and usually hastens their degradation

(the Titanic isn't spectacularly rusting because it's sat in water with very low oxygen contect, it's spectacularly rusting because there's a microbe feeding on it. The well preserved wooden wrecks tend to be submerged in mud or in zones with relatively little life too)


Maybe the initial picture most of us have regarding ship wrecks is ships built from metal, which rust and fall apart significantly easier when submerged.



It's incredibly well preserved: https://youtu.be/eB7ApbS2P7o


This has been an exciting few years for exploration fans, between the discovery of the Franklin Expedition's ships and this!


The Liam Neeson narrated documentary is the best one covering this story.

It's on YouTube and well worth a watch on a slow Sunday.


link?



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