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> I also like to point out that browsers pioneered tabs because the GUI toolkit and DE developers failed to do a good job at opening multiple documents well.

Windows and macOS had tabbed interfaces long before browsers made them cute. This is also an irrelevant distraction from the conversation about trust levels.

> This is an extra layer doing what the OS should be offering.

As pointed out by a sibling, this is an OS provided tool. I run macOS and I find containerisation an annoying distraction from doing my front-end dev work. I see why you might want it for back-end work and I feel your frustration at being forced to use a VM to support a Linux feature in an OS that doesn't share the same feature (or provide a directly comparable alternative). That would be nice.

I don't think it's relevant to the web vs OS trust level conversation either. Containers might support better OS-level sandboxing, but they're still open to the web and to siphoning off user-generated data to the cloud.

The core thing we should collectively work towards is a mind-set (and tools) that better supports users owning their own data more often, and vendors making tools to support that data, rather than monetising it independently of the users they provide tools to. This was the norm through 'til Hotmail and Yahoomail took off; it swung exponentially away from user-benefit when Gmail took off.




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