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Yeah you're right this is kind of the archetypical "framework vs not" or "framework vs library" debate.

And I agree there's nuance to that conversation.

IMO, PHP codebases most err on the side of "reinventing the wheel" because PHP has since its inception just sort of worked, i.e. mirroring directory structure, spitting out HTML verbatim etc. So the framework luddites tend to be over-represented with PHP projects. Hence my opinion here.




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