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> - What level of state-sponsored violence is justifiable to further reduce that risk?

This is the line I'm responding to.

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You know damn well that libertarians do this bullshit when playing with "use of force" language in these discussion.

A fine is "government use of force" to a libertarian. I'd rather not get stuck in the weeds over such details. But you're trying to pin me from the other side, and I don't appreciate it.



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