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I’d much prefer Toyota’s sales to Ferrari’s.



And Toyota's reliability, pricing, parts availability, practicality and comfort.


(Yes, ) But without the current privacy policies, thanks. (Context: I was informed two years ago, by resellers, that Toyota was sending data from the cars to their own servers - just this very capability embedded in the car already some find completely unacceptable - and that they intended to demand the signature of agreements loose about privacy.)


Agreed. That's why I bought an old car and restored it to new state rather than to go with the more current crop. A couple of near misses on account of software bugs that tried to kill me were enough to convince me to opt out, and that's before I got into tracking the vehicle and sending other data.


> near misses on account of software bugs that tried to kill me

Absolutely.

Engineering issues (samples of episodes reported): * steering wheel not responding (and user driving on motorway); * car unlock mechanism not responding (and user in the desert); * necessary electronics placed in external rear view mirror... Security issues: * steering wheel remotely hijackable through BT security hole... Now add the privacy issues.

This is largely OT in the current submission, but we should have a good exploration and discussion about these matters in other pages. The big issue is: alternatives. Surely many of us have been finding themselves with a problem of options.


The analogy does not stretch that far




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