For me, it is very obvious which side this person is on (both the twitterer and HN poster) based on keyword like "authoritarian" and "propaganda" and "fear of death", not to mention "people have science as religion".
- Authoritarianism - The left is authoritarian because they are for mandates and lockdowns.
- Propaganda - The mainstream media and the CDC have continually overexaggerated the threat of COVID.
- Fear of death - People on the left only cares about virtual signaling and not the threat to their personal safety that comes with giving up freedom.
Perspective from the left:
- Authoritarianism - The Trump admin lied to us about the threat of COVID, tried to cover up their mismanagement of the pandemic, restricted people's individual freedom to prioritize their health by forcing people back to work. Also there is the whole trying to invalidate fair elections thing.
- Propaganda - Fox News and Republicans have continually downplayed the threat of COVID and the effectiveness of the vaccine.
- Fear of death - The people on the right would rather follow the leaders of their party than protect their own safety.
The one about science being religion is one of the few that reveals Zuby's bias.
If these vaccines work so well, why are all the blue states requiring fully vaccinated individuals to wear masks? You can even get a booster and still be required to wear a mask. If they are so effective, why does any vaccinated individual give a single crap about the vaccination status of anybody else? Who are these masks trying to protect?
If anything the only people downplaying the effectiveness of the vaccine are the “experts” and all these worthless politicians.
Note: I’m fully vaccinated and believe these vaccines are perhaps some of the best humans have created. There is zero reason to continue dragging this crap on beyond last January. Vaccines were the promised end of all these restrictions. That people seem perfectly okay shifting the goalposts well beyond that is scary as hell.
Vaccines are effective at reducing death and hospitalization. They don't reduce transmission to zero, for the Delta variant in particular. Children and many teens are not vaccinated, and they're also particularly vulnerable to the Delta variant. Masks are most effective at stopping transmission. For the same reason cars are equipped with brakes and seatbelts.
When will masks go away? What is the exact needed to stop mandating them?
And vaccomated people don’t need masks. It isn’t a science thing. It’s just plain stupid to keep wearing them. Life has plenty of other things for people to worry about besides just this myopic fixation on covid.
Are they? Are masks the most effective at stopping transmission? Even cloth masks? Masks mandates don't seem to make a difference. And studies sure cloth masks are mostly useless
Masks are an amulet and nothing more. It’s like religion. Deep in most peoples heart they know their religion isn’t real but they’ll never admit it, even to themselves.
Same with masks… deep in most peoples hearts, they know masks don’t do a darn thing. But they’ll never admit it… don’t wanna be thought of as “the others”…
Sorry, I should have said "susceptible." But I did not say that children are exhibiting more severe symptoms; those are your words. However, the infection rate of children is much higher with Delta than other variants.
As an aside, I know that this is a hot-button topic. It would be appreciated if you follow the site guidelines, and be more charitable in conversation.
So what if the infection rate in kids is higher? They still aren’t at risk of serious illness. They are far more at risk of house fires, swimming pools and driving.
They increase the overall rate of transmission, putting everybody they're in contact with at greater risk. Especially since they're in schools, often in close contact with multiple cohorts per day. Diseases spread most quickly through densely-connected social networks. We didn't see significant transmission in children with the early variants, but with Delta, the game has changed.
The people who catch it care. The people with dead relatives especially care. The hospitals full beyond capacity care. The patients denied treatment because hospitals are overloaded care. The health care professionals who are overworked and have PTSD from working under these conditions care. Not everybody has, or even can, get a vaccine. For those people, and because of those people, masks are used.
For me, it is very obvious which side this person is on (both the twitterer and HN poster) based on keyword like "authoritarian" and "propaganda" and "fear of death", not to mention "people have science as religion".