> Equality of outcome is easier to enforce by punishing the top percentile
More so the top percentile have the ability, and in my opinion, the moral responsibility to push the entire standard of education up for everyone, rather than their own kin.
This is a little ridiculous. You expect elementary school students, now removed from their gifted classes, to "push the entire standard of education up for everyone"? I think they will be a little too concerned with Minecraft and Roblox to support your grand ideas of social justice and moral responsibility.
> I think they will be a little too concerned with Minecraft and Roblox to support your grand ideas of social justice and moral responsibility.
I mean other than the fact that this is extremely dismissive, again, Finland is the example that did get rid of all this crap and is doing pretty well for itself.
Are you from Finland to be so sure of your argument? I've been a "gifted" kid so I'm sure about your interlocutor's. My parents have been summoned, more than once, to have a discussion about a group of four problematic pupils spending ~75% of the time playing cards. Turns out that we were consistently finishing all of the assignments, including the stretch goals, at the beginning and spent the rest of the time waiting for the others to catch up. But somehow none of us got an idea to try to tutor a bully or something. The system also didn't have a response to this.
> It's not the top percentile who have the ability. We have to all do it for each other.
Sure. And part of that is making sure that wealth is being distributed with the health of society in mind, rather than individual happiness at the top :)
The answer to where the money has gone is sort of everywhere. Everything from social security payments to military budgets has increased. Everyone makes more and things cost more too.
I'm not sure the outcome you actually want here. Failing students for not performing at gifted levels is obviously not the outcome anyone wants.. What exactly should the gifted students be doing?
Which top percentile are you referring to, the wealthy citizens or the gifted children? I believe the comment you’re replying to is referring to the latter, while you’re referring to the former.
More so the top percentile have the ability, and in my opinion, the moral responsibility to push the entire standard of education up for everyone, rather than their own kin.