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If non-PC thoughts are against the rules, post those rules in the acceptable use policy. I don't think it's hateful to critically discuss BLM. I do think it's hateful to say "x group is bad", but that's not what I read.

I believe BLM to be led by Marxists and that is backed up by objective evidence. I'm not sure why that's controversial. It's also objectively true that George Floyd had a criminal record. Again, I'm not sure why that's controversial. One can be very socially aware and also recognize those two facts. It is indeed problematic that Floyd pointed a gun at the abdomen of a woman whom he thought was pregnant during a home invasion robbery, or that he had significant amounts of narcotics in his system when he died. That doesn't make his death justifiable, it's just the real life complications of a real life case (which tend not to be overly clean). When did we get afraid of objective facts?

EDIT: Downvoters: explain why. Simple Q. What is it about facts you don't like?



It doesn't take Einstein to understand that George Floyd could just be anyone in that scenario.

To focus on his personal history is simply irrelevant and is in disrespect of the judicial branch and the principle on the separation of powers. No one is contending the truthfulness of his criminal history, but he didn't die as a result of that, he died as a result of the disregard of human life by an officer of the executive branch.

Even if you don't like BLM, which is okay, it stretches too far to claim it a terrorist group.

Please don't just reduce it to 'facts you don't like', facts won't get you banned, but those claims the OP made are more than that.


I don't have the feature to downvote you, but it I did then I would. Here's why: what is an "objective fact"?

Are those statements you made relevant to the death of George Floyd? The answer is no.

He was a criminal who made mistakes - for which he served his time. Stating your "objective facts" appear to diverge attention elsewhere and in particular to paint George as the guilty party that warranted the police response that he received. Did he deserve that?

He begged for his life while being kneed to the throat for over 10 minutes. He then died on the floor by a police offer. There's some objective facts for you pal.

Further, there was no "real life complications of a real life case" he was literally murdered. That's the point and is why the police office is serving jail time!

Please take some time to consider what and WHY you wrote what you did. Do you think that he deserved death? Why?


> Are those statements you made relevant to the death of George Floyd? The answer is no.

They were in the judgement of a coroner. Not enough to mean murder wasn't called for, but it's obtuse to not observe that Floyd's drug load was past the lethal level for most people.

> Stating your "objective facts" appear to diverge attention elsewhere and in particular to paint George as the guilty party that warranted a cold bold death sentence. Did he that?

No, and when did I argue that? I never said he deserved to die. He should have been transported to jail and then tried for his crimes, not killed.

> He begged for his life while being kneed to the throat. There's an objective fact for you pal.

Anyone with any experience with corrections finds statements by suspects like this laughable at best. With him it was perhaps true (you physiologically can't speak if you can't breathe, but I don't deny he was killed). With someone else, it was because their wrists hurt because of those shiny bracelets they earned by committing crimes. I believe essentially nothing that a suspect says about their comfort, because the majority are accomplished liars. This is what they do. It is literally their occupation. I also believe Floyd was killed. Can you fit those two concepts in your head?

> Further, there was no "real life complications of a real life case" he was literally murdered. That's the point and is why the police office is serving jail time!

His drug consumption was absolutely a complication with his trial. Why would you think it wasn't?

> Please take some time to consider what and WHY you wrote what you did. Do you think that he deserved death? Why?

I don't think he deserved to die. I wrote what I wrote to illustrate that Real Life is hardly clean. There's nothing class-, race-, or otherwise-based in what I wrote. Objective facts.


So you agree he was killed and didn't deserve to die. You are just annoyed that such a "fuss" was made about it, and that he was black has nothing to do with it.

Got it.


When did I ever say that? I am annoyed someone was blocked/banned for quoting facts. I don't think Floyd needed to die at that point in time.

Why are you so hell-bent on painting me as a racist? I've said nothing of the sort. I've never said anything apologetic towards the actors in Floyd's death. I've not even made a statement on his death at all, other than his drug use complicates things (which I think anyone would agree upon).

Sure seems like you're out to get someone. Why? What makes you so hungry for blood? I did nothing to irritate you.


The Unites States needs a dose of Marxism. Things are bad here for the working class. We have more than enough resources to do better and bring our society up to par with other developed countries.


Marxism is crap. It doesn't address the flaws in monetary systems leading to collective short term thinking.


Ha, nooooo. Your deluded worldview has been proven false. Kindly bugger off with it.

Every single developed country practices capitalism. Every one. The Scandinavians practice Democratic Socialism precisely because they have a surplus to spend on social programs (largely due to a combination of oil money and a lack of a semi-permanent underclass), none of which sounds particularly socialist to me.




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