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Grifting how? I havent seen them do much beyond the regular shilling for nordvpn and asking for patreon donations that come as standard for most youtubers who have bills to pay.


Their rhetoric about China has often time been very loaded deliberately or out of ignorance.

Compared to how they were during their stay in China especially serpentza saying how he "gets" why talking about politics is so important while very obviously barely cares about it (zero interest in his current country's politicsfor instance).

Or their weird "we are the true journalists" shtick like with covid or agood example being their claim of being the first to report illegal fishing by China when news outlets reported on it a week before.


I can kind of sympathize with their sudden hyperpoliticization given what happened to them.

I sincerely hope they dont start talking about america. What would be the point?




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