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HN should be a place of justice and sharpening of ideas. Thank you for participating in that.

Allies and racists both exist on a continuum, do they not? A single individual will take actions that are both helpful and harmful in different measures to other people and groups in society.

Some racists are going to be net benefits to society. Their racist views may be limited, unintentional, unexpressed, or any combination of the above. While their works may be helping minority groups directly.

That's just one example of the presented framework breaking, but there are many more permutations. Hopefully this is enough for us to agree that a blanket statement like

> these "allies" are worse than ... overtly prejudiced/racist people.

is, if not inaccurate, so imprecise as to be meaningless.



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