> As a POC, I appreciate these woke people, even though some of their actions may be heavy handed. I wish there were more of them when I was growing up and being bullied by real bigots.
Counterpoint: As a non-white, oppressed person who grew up in Apartheid South Africa, these 'Woke' people resemble the Apartheid rulers way too much for my liking[1].
As bad as the situation is, as presented by BLM for blacks in America now and in the recent past, it's nowhere near as bad as having laws on the books, that courts had to enforce, that made you less of a human than white people.
[1] The animals looked from Pig to Man, and Man to Pig, and they could not tell the difference, roughly paraphrased from Orwell.
I live in South Africa. DeGroot and his ilk were nothing like "woke". They were monsters that dehumanized citizens and murdered with impunity. You should know that, which makes your comment suspect.
> I live in South Africa. DeGroot and his ilk were nothing like "woke". They were monsters that dehumanized citizens and murdered with impunity. You should know that, which makes your comment suspect.
But I do know that they dehumanised citizens, because I specifically said:
> it's nowhere near as bad as having laws on the books, that courts had to enforce, that made you less of a human than white people.
Why did you ignore that? Is there something about that comment that makes it hard to read, or hard to understand?
I never claimed that the Woke followers were murdering others with impunity, I said that I see a resemblance between them and the apartheid rulers. I never specified what the resemblance was, but since you appear to assume that "murder" was the resemblance, let me clarify that I did not intend to claim that the Woke followers were murdering people.
The resemblance I see is the dehumanisation of non-Woke followers (not dehumanisation of just the Woke-opposed, but of anyone who may even be neutral).
If you compare people to apartheid murderers and _don't_ specify how you mean, you can't exactly claim he's jumping down _your_ throat taking that the wrong way.
"Oh, these leftists seem like Adolf Hitler"
"Fuck you"
"Hey, hey, I didn't specify _how_ they're like Hitler, I just meant how he dehumanises people, not _any_ of the things almost everyone in the world knows him for"
This is why I hate the anti-woke, just incredible levels of smug, trolling styles of communication, constantly saying inflammatory bullshit and then pulling back and acting "attacked" and calling people "close-minded" for not asking you to elaborate on obvious "veiled" insults and bile.
these 'Woke' people resemble the Apartheid rulers way too much for my liking[1].
How much do they resemble the Apartheid rulers? They look quite different to me. When I think of the Apartheid rulers, the key defining features I think of are people operating a state that actively dehumanises large groups of people and sentences them to life as second-class citizens lacking rights and opportunities, and who are made to fear violence of the state, and so on.
These woke people seem quite different to that. So when you say they're too similar for your liking, how similar is that? In what ways, that you don't like, are they similar?
Counterpoint: As a non-white, oppressed person who grew up in Apartheid South Africa, these 'Woke' people resemble the Apartheid rulers way too much for my liking[1].
As bad as the situation is, as presented by BLM for blacks in America now and in the recent past, it's nowhere near as bad as having laws on the books, that courts had to enforce, that made you less of a human than white people.
[1] The animals looked from Pig to Man, and Man to Pig, and they could not tell the difference, roughly paraphrased from Orwell.