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That is great. But still, vaccinated people shouldn't be told that they cannot get infected. There is this weird misconception floating around that just because we get vaccinated we are somehow immune to covid-19. That is a dangerous and misguided belief.


The CDC, FDA, governments, etc have said constantly that the vaccines have a 90-95% efficacy rate.

Anyone who somehow interpreted that as "completely immune" has bad reading comprehension.

This sounds like a strawman argument that you're making, I don't know where you're getting that there's a misconception of the vaccine equating to 100% immunity. No one said that.


Right now the primary question is about the comprehension, or lack of same, on the part of anti-vaxers. The actual truth about infections is almost completely irrelevant here. The question is, what tactic will keep us all safest when the primary threat comes from people who are clinically stupid?

That's purely a psychology question, and I honestly don't know what the answer is. But it's worth noting that it's pretty much all about strawmen, and which strawmen the anti-vax crowd can be manipulated into believing.


J&J definitely does not have >90% efficacy



I thought was actually mattered was hospitalizations and deaths. Why is measuring infections relevant?


According to the public perception, getting COVID is a death sentence. That's all there is to it.


The primary goal is to not contract covid-19.


That may be your goal, but that is not the goal of public health policy. If complete eradication was the goal, we would be wearing masks, social distancing, and requiring businesses to operate at lower capacity for many, many years to come. That is just not an acceptable state of life for the vast majority of people in the US. You may not agree with that, but that's just how things are.


So what is an appropriate amount of cases to go back to normal?


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That's your choice but note that your choice is not based in science or statistics. Statistically if you're vaccinated you will not die. You won't even get severe Covid. That's even if you get Covid in the first place which would be very hard. If you want to wear a mask as a fashion statement or virtue signaling then that's fine.


Were you wearing a mask in 2019? Because influenza killed thousands of people that year, and we didn't have a 100% preventative vaccine.



Are you saying that you don't want to take any risk of dying of covid, but your odds of dying of the flu don't bother you?


I strongly suspect we are being trolled at this point.


Considering the vaccine now makes it less likely to die from Covid if infected than the flu, were you wearing a mask for decades before Covid too?




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