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>This is a well-respected publication commenting on a matter of great importance that injected false information into it.

And the [likely politically deliberate] regularity with which this has been happening for years makes me very uneasy to read articles by the same outlets crusading against "misinformation". This movement isn't about combating misinformation, it's about combatting their misinformation, and ensuring that people only see our "true" information




Yes, effectively all US media are propaganda for the elites at this point. After the way the mainstream media threw the election for Joe Biden this past election, I think many people will turn to less traditional sources.

It is simply too much of a coincidence that all these false stories about Donald Trump got published, yet any negative story about Joe Biden, e.g. the Hunter Biden scandal was thrown down the memory hole.


> Yes, effectively all US media are propaganda for the elites at this point.

With you up to here. This is not exactly a new development though.

Everything else in your post is disputable or dubious but I feel that I have little chance of changing your opinion on that.


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It shows nothing of the sort, and the site guidelines ask you explicitly not to post like this—and also not to go on about downvotes.

You've unfortunately been breaking them repeatedly, and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26465025 was egregious, so I've banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.


Which false stories about Trump? This one was wrong in some details; what else do you have?


The real issue isn't the 'false' stories. Most 'false' stories are from hyper-partisan outlets that don't really matter. The mainstream media rarely writes 'false' stories, because lying is dumb. Lying creates blowback, which harms your credibility and hamstrings your ability to shape the narrative. If your goal is to mislead, the best path to tell the truth, the politically convenient truth, but never the whole truth. That way, folks like you can (plausibly!) ask "where's the lie?"

Well, it's hard to put my finger on a specific lie. Even if I did, you'd (plausibly!) argue "That's just one article!" Luckily, there are plenty of hard data out there about how the American people have been misled.

One great example is the Trump tax cuts. 64% of Americans got a tax cut, of whom 40% were convinced that they did not! [0]

Our media is incapable of informing the people about a matter of simple arithmetic!

[0]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/14/business/economy/income-t...


> One great example is the Trump tax cuts. 64% of Americans got a tax cut, of whom 40% were convinced that they did not!

40% of 64% is 25%, which doesn't sound like a lot. That's a lot better than how many people don't know that Obamacare and the ACA are the same thing[1].

You're also not mentioning that the individual tax cuts begin to phase out in 2021, and end completely in 2025. Whereas the corporate tax cuts are permanent (until the next tax act, at least).[2] So some of those people may have been taking future taxes into account too (unlikely, but possible).

1. https://www.businessinsider.com/poll-obamacare-affordable-ca...

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Cuts_and_Jobs_Act_of_2017


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Thumbs up for Tim Pool. He was my big discovery a year ago.




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