I find it particularly ironic that it has fallen to a Facebook group of Cold Fusion programmers to call out poor choices.
Those of us who actually worked at 1st generation dotcoms know that absolutely nobody had any idea what they were doing, even at the "proper" ones, and things were moving so fast that you absolutely _had_ to fake it until you made it.
I really hated ColdFusion. It made PHP hacks seem like beautiful poetry.
So it’s funny that ColdFusion folks would complain about any stupid recruiter. But CF peeps are people too.
My opinion is based on having to fix a lot of CF code from people who were “faking it until they could hire prepend to make it.”
It’s funny that Allaire now runs RStudio and when I learned that I considered not using it anymore because of some lurking, unknown to me technical debt. But I’m sure he’s a smart person and CF was not terrible due to him being bad. So I’m still using RStudio.
I used to hate CF until I came across the fusebox pattern/framework[1]. I think they were some of the first to draw up a sane architecture for "template" languages (cf, php, asp, jsp etc).
Much like a book I picked up on sale about asp[2] - it really drove home the point that a programming language really needs to be terrible before it is the main problem - rather than how you use it. See also xmlhttprequest/Ajax and "Javascript - the good parts".
I didn’t use CF professionally until 2000 and started with fusebox. I think fusebox was a good idea, but still CF sucked to use as a developer (me comparing it to cgi, php, asp, java).
I stopped using CF in 2001, but the fusebox ideas stuck with me as I worked with other web frameworks like struts, spring, other mvc stuff.
Ha, so true. Man, there were a few months back then when I was being phoned about 5 times a day with job offers. None of them were even vaguely related to the skillset I had (doing a bit of ropy HTML) but I could have tripled my salary without even breaking a sweat. I worked for Waterstone's Online at the time, glad I stayed put, we had fun.
Cold Fusion though - I loved that. It was my first scripting language (apart from a brief foray into Perl), and it seemed like magic.
Yes but how else will you kick down the ladder once you made it?
FAAGs are where we put people who are really good at colouring within the box these days. It's pretty stunning how in 15 years it went from being a place where the best and brightest used to go a way to filter resumes.
Those of us who actually worked at 1st generation dotcoms know that absolutely nobody had any idea what they were doing, even at the "proper" ones, and things were moving so fast that you absolutely _had_ to fake it until you made it.