My dream would be seamless interoperation between all these tools. Would also mean better 'competition', easier to convince people to try them, avoiding lock-in in one tool, etc etc.
For some tools it's already possible to interoperate -- for them would be nice to have summaries on what are the caveats (e.g. would the tool format my whole note base? would it break any special syntax imposed by the other tool? etc etc)
I've been thinking of a tool to generate a kind of schema for a website, similar to RDF[0] or JSON-LD[1]. The end goal of this would be interoperability between tools - ideally I could browse HN and other related sites or forums in my RSS reader with a unified interface, or translate the Roam note format into the Athens equivalent to use with either.
To me RSS is exactly that. I don't see the advantage of converting an HTML to RDF because it would cover the entire spectrum. All the semantics might be lost. RSS is the smallest common denominator. If you agree somehow, you might be interested in that tool [0], it converts HTML to RSS using pattern matching.
Sorry, RSS was probably a bad example. I meant that I could have One Interface to Rule Them All, seamless collaboration between similar tools (e.g. viewing repositories on Github and Gitlab in a single application, or ordering a few items from a few different sites in a single place). I think the problem today is that data between websites is disjointed and not interoperable with other sites; my solution would be to build a tool that generates a kind of formula for conversion from multiple sites, such as Github and Gitlab, to a standard format, which can then be consumed by an application. Data and features wouldn't be mapped one-to-one, which is probably one of the larger problems.
The tool looks fantastic though, thanks for sharing.
I did not know this one. The difference is that the first one extracts the feeds automatically, the second one not. Here the user has to define everything.
That setup would also be a defense against potential bad actors acquiring one of the tools and somehow adding malicious code to it, so then people are quickly mobile to move to a comparable; like with the recent situation with The Great Suspender extension.
Data Ownership: You own your data - always. You'll be able to export all data in its raw state and import it to another tool.
Free Access Guarantee: We'll always provide a feature-rich, free-for-life version of RemNote. Current users will never be asked to pay for any feature they're already using, in the feature's current state.
Guaranteed Access Clause: In the extremely unlikely event that RemNote ever winds down (don't worry - we are 100% committed and fully expect and plan to be here for the long-haul), we will release all code into an open source project. You could run RemNote as a local desktop app (RemNote already works fully offline) and/or the open source community could host RemNote independently.
The most interesting thing about this for me (as somebody who already uses TiddlyWiki and is just curious about features) is the ability to easily make flashcards from components of your zettelkasten.
I already use Anki heavily for studies that require it but integration would be even more powerful - copying text snippets from a zettelkasten to Anki is unsolving the problem that knowledge-map systems are trying to solve. I’m surprised I haven’t seen a feature or plugin like this for Roam/Obsidian/TW.
Wow, I was a little thrown by the wink and the introduction to this notepage but after briefly scrolling I have to say this is quite inspired, thank you for sharing this research
I've been loving Foam as it lives inside VSCode, where I spend most of my days anyway. Obsidian was nice too, but I ended up moving back to Foam. The only feature I wish Foam had is to apply force directed layouts to only selected nodes at a time.
org-roam https://www.orgroam.com/
tiddlyroam https://tiddlyroam.org/
Dendron https://dendron.so/
Foam https://foambubble.github.io/foam/
Remnote https://www.remnote.io/
Obsidian https://obsidian.md/
logseq https://logseq.com/
Not an expert with them at all. I've never had a desire to dig into all their complexity, but some are pretty passionate about it.