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Why not use 1/2 and get a bigger number?


Because I think a third is a more reasonable estimate?


It's not reasonable to speak concretely about the result of multiplying a rough estimate by a large number.

Of course, I'm coming at it from a perspective where I don't think the potential deaths from the pandemic are obviously outweighed by other things that have happened since it started.

Much of the economic impact would have come regardless of government actions, and there would likely have been much more death if the spring pauses had not happened (there's been much time for people to make less costly adjustments, treatments have improved, etc.).


> It's not reasonable to speak concretely about the result of multiplying a rough estimate by a large number.

I didn't speak concretely, and it is reasonable if you clearly list your assumptions! But the broader point is that if we were looking at QALY as a measure that's very different to deaths.

> there would likely have been much more death

There might have been more death, but it's also worth considering what this is in terms of net-QALY as the average age of death is >80. If we lock down 30 people for a year to add 3 years of life to someone, is that a good trade?


287,500 lifetimes?

And now you are being absurd, jumping from 1/3 quality of life reduction as an estimate to locking people down for a year. I'm in the US, where the harshest restriction has been on businesses, people have never been locked in their homes. We've had shelter in place orders and similar, but the enforcement of those amounts to "please".


> "I'm from a different country with low enforcement and a generally nice climate, and can't imagine that being stuck in your home in England and not be allowed to see anyone during the winter can have a negative impact on the quality of life!"

Yeah, I stand by that as a rough estimate.


It's barely going to get above freezing here for the next 3 months. 2 degrees Celsius today, as Winter just starts to take hold.




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