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One of the funnier "Preppers" episodes I've seen was a rational prepper who was interviewed by the show.

It was along the lines of "We're Honey Farmers. Every few centuries, an earthquake shakes the East Coast and may destroy the highways. We have a plan to survive for 30 days isolated from the rest of the country".

They had a large stockpile of honey, water, etc. etc. They explained how their system would work without power. Their scenario was based on Hurricane Katrina (and how long it took for aid to arrive: over a month). Overall, a rational set of people.

They got low-scores from the show's hosts because they didn't have enough guns to survive, apparently. Now, some form of self-defense seems needed after a disaster, but we've never seen roaming gangs of bandits running across the countryside stealing food from those who have it (which is apparently the main thing those "Preppers" want to prepare for)



How absurd. "Let's go raid the honey farm" said no one ever.

I'll never understand the fantasies about armed bands roaming the suburbs. Must come from tv shows and video games, because there's never been an actual natural disaster in the US where that sort of behavior was wide spread. And we've had a lot of natural disasters


"Let's go raid the honey farm" would be said. It's fairly energy dense, antiseptic and perfect for long term storage.


> I'll never understand the fantasies about armed bands roaming the suburbs.

I wonder how much of it is rooted in racism and irrational fear of "urban gangs". Where I am in europe it seems like the extreme right likes to entertain societal collapse fantasies using the suburban immigrant delinquents as threir main focus point. No idea how that translates in the US though


You don't need a raid if you have guns and they don't. You probably don't even have to do any shooting.

You might just be hungry, or in a group with others who are hungry, and heard there was a farm in a general area.


The point is that the idea that disasters are immediately followed by violent banditry is entirely a fabrication of hollywood.

In real life, when disaster strikes people band together. Humans are fundamentally social animals, we have been for our entire 150,000 year history. Our lizard-brain instinct is to seek help and help others.


We are also quite tribal, and there are numerous instances throughout that history of an "us vs. them" mentality causing people to do terrible things.

I don't expect roving gangs. I do expect people to be coerced into handing over resources by other people who think they're helping others and/or serving a greater good.


I guess my point was more that disasters happen all the time and I can't remember the last time I heard about a farm being raided.


If you're only concerned about the disasters that happen all the time, then you're not in the same mindset as your typical prepper.


Natural disasters are not so bad. Historically-speaking, artificial disasters are much more worrisome.

The main thing that protects your farm is simply distance. Nobody in a city knows how to travel by foot or navigate.


The media reports during Katrina probably contributed to this fear.

Even today, I'm sure most people believe it was lawless anarchy and that the superdome turned into a massive gang rape. That was a gross exaggeration.


Well... that may depend on one’s proximity to The Hundred Acre Wood or other natural habitats of Heffalumps and Woozles.


> we've never seen roaming gangs of bandits

In the last 2 months we've seen roaming gangs of bandits looting stores and burning down buildings. (Causing over $2B in damages - the most expensive riot insurance payout ever, more than the King riots)


You can't say it out loud because it's politically incorrect but true.

I have some karma points to burn :)




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