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I think that our settlements were semi-permanent as hunter-gatherers. We could move with the seasons. In this case, agriculture would give us a reason to stay put when previously we may have moved on.

But even these are distinct from "cities." A city implies a number of people in at least a few thousand. My understanding is that hunter-gatherer tribes were in the order of several dozen. I just don't see thousands of people living in one place without agriculture.




i was just using "city" as a placeholder since it was used in the article. most of the problems mentioned in the article are perfectly capable of surfacing at a much smaller settlement size.


I don't think that's the case with disease. Diseases need to have always have some living host in order to not die out completely. I don't think groups of several dozen are large enough to support that. Further, it's possible that some of our diseases are actually from the animals we domesticated as a part of agriculture.


i agree. but the paper doesn't bring up only disease. it includes other factors that i'm not sure necessarily follow.




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