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Par for the course with Apple. Apps in macOS never crash, they merely exhibit unexpected behaviours.


Was literally told this by an Apple "Genius" when I took my dad's MacBook in for what was obviously (and did indeed turn out to be) faulty ram.


> unexpected

"off-nominal"


I don't care if it's not correct, I just like how "non-nominal" sounds.


It eventually leads to "rapid unscheduled termination".


Automatically engaged energy saver mode.


Eww, not “termination”, that sounds harsh … maybe “exit” or “closure”?


the term is "rapid unplanned disassembly"

also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_flight_into_terrain


Oh, wait... That linked name is completely reasonable and descriptive. It's not like the others.


has a better ring to it than "crashing into the side of a mountain"


It doesn't mean "crashing into the side of a mountain".

It means "flying normally, into a path that ends on the side of a mountain". That "flying normally" part is really relevant.


well, yes, it also means that.

nothing in that statement implies that crashing was not preceded by normal, controlled flight. the term "crash" has no innate implication besides violent impact. though, yes, in actual use it often implies "accidental" and/or "uncontrolled".


It is a specific term that means the aircraft was flying normally all the way until it reached the ground.

Yes, "crashing on the side of a mountain" is also a correct description of the same event. But those two phrases do not have the same meaning.


Specifically, CFIT is a subset of "crashing into a mountain" where the aircraft was under control all the way until terminal lithobraking. It's implied the last part is usually unexpected, otherwise it would be avoided.


See also: lithobraking.


unrequested state erasure


Apps never crash. They just go on vacations. Then they return with their default screens, rested and ready to work again.


That's the reality distortion spells kicking in right there by Apple's marketing wizards.


eg: unexpectedly closing with no message.


And "privacy"- meanwhile their App store is full of spyware.

Not that Android is better, but at least they aren't marketing it.


> And "privacy"- meanwhile their App store is full of spyware.

If Apple tightly controls their store, Apple bad.

If Apple doesn't tightly control their store, Apple bad.

The unavoidable consequence of being really big - a large number of people will be unhappy with your decisions no matter what you do.


If Apple claim to tightly control their store because of privacy and security, but then don't deliver, then yes, Apple bad.

If apple doesn't tightly control their store and doesn't claim to protect your privacy or security through their store, then no, they're not bad.

Its about not meeting the expectations they, themselves, set based on their claims.


You can’t claim that, and not provide any evidence at all.




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