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> Not every person under a universal healthcare system gets the treatment they want when they want it. Are you disputing that?

It's an irrelevant distraction. What's important is not to deprive people of care to such an extent that 71k people dies every year in a country fully capable of providing universal healthcare. You're using dogma to justify that. What you're calling "get the treatment they want" is just to allow rich people to get priority.



> You're using dogma to justify that.

I'm not using dogma at all, let alone using it to "justify" anything. It simply is how it is. There is no panacea. You're totally captured by a utopian vision which is why you can't comprehend that.

Even countries with universal healthcare can't provide healthcare services to everyone who needs it or wants it. Healthcare resources are finite. No amount of arguing on your part will change that.


You are very careful about which parts of each message you like to answer aren't you?

I haven't argued that healthcare resources aren't finite. But what kind of pointless argument is that? "Housing is finite", "Clothing is finite", "Food is finite". Well, yes? But what kinds of housing are plentiful and what kinds of housing are not? And what need kind of housing is needed to make sure people doesn't die of exposure, even the poor? What's utopian about not having 71k people per year die due to lack of healthcare coverage? Do you think all of these 71k would end up on some brain surgery queue and die anyway?

You're just making pointless statements without any depth. Dilettante.


> But what kinds of housing are plentiful and what kinds of housing are not?

Certain types of housing are plentiful and some are more scarce depending on what homebuyers want at some price and homebuilders can build at some price.

> And what need kind of housing is needed to make sure people doesn't die of exposure, even the poor?

Again even if you were able to determine that (which you aren't, given that most of these people are severely drug addicted or mentally ill, homelessness is more complicated than just people not having a home), how are you going to convince or force people to build these houses that you (Supreme Decider of America) determine to be necessary?

> You're just making pointless statements without any depth

I'm actually making very pointed arguments that fundamentally invalidate your whole world view. That's why it's upsetting to you.


> how are you going to convince or force people to build these houses that you (Supreme Decider of America)

In Sweden we had a government agency that both identified the need (not rocket science) and government building corporations that actually built the houses.

> I'm actually making very pointed arguments that fundamentally invalidate your whole world view.

It must be handy to be so ignorant and yet so cocksure. That's so arrogant that I'm starting to think you're actually trolling.


Sweden is one of the last places on earth I would choose to live and probably in the next decade even you will see why. Eventually all of these socialist regimes collapse.


What a waste of time.




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