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We could argue with you, but it would accomplish little.

1. I'm not looking for a satisfactory answer. I'm looking for the answer that is most plausible. I go where evidence leads me. In this case, there is as much evidence for god as there is for unicorns. This is not sufficient to dismiss the concept of god entirely, but it should at least give you pause.

2. I have debated religious people for hours and hours. I don't know any atheist who hasn't seriously evaluated his beliefs. My position is very close to the one of Richard Dawkins. Read his books (especially Selfish Gene and The God Delusion). The last book is not as confrontational as the title suggests. Dawkins has done a few programmes for the BBC, you can easily find them online.

3. There doesn't -need- to be an answer. When a problem is very complex, it is always better to honestly admit you don't know than to make something up that sounds nice or gives comfort.

4. You can't expect people to explain their position again and again on forums like these. Reading books is a far more efficient way to understand alternative points of view. Only when you have -specific- questions does it make sense to challenge people online.



All models are false but some models are useful. http://is.gd/MnP

Usefulness of the God model depends on the context. Therefore it does not make sense to discuss such things without a context.


Exactly. That's why I proposed Dawkins' model as a frame of reference. Without some common ground communication breaks down.


This starts with the basic assumption that god is only a useful model and not an actuality.


4. You can't expect people to explain their position again and again on forums like these.

If this thread is any indication, then actually, you can expect people to explain their position again and again. The tough thing is getting them to stop.

/me is guilty as charged...


I wasn't interested in an "argument". I was interested in an answer to the question posed by the post and specifically to this community. Thank you for your perspective. Dawkins I find unsatisfactory as specified elsewhere here.




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