Yes, absolutely. What discernible talent did John Lennon have when he got involved with the industry? There is no level of training or 'talent' that has ever reliably led to great songwriting. Nobody has a formula for great songs, it's not like programming where one a great hacker = always a great hacker, able to get the job done. It's all just shots in the dark. You can already see as the money falls out of hip hop that it's dying out and fewer young rappers are appearing.