The radio to podcast transition is an S-curve driven by smartphone adoption.
There is a slight offset from the smartphone adoption curve because you need a bigger market to support niche productions long enough to work out enough standard formats that it can be easily replicated in non-niche segments.
Once you have non-niche shows that are nicely formatted, and you’re past the tipping point for smartphones, the curve stands up.
Would someone with more insight help me to understand?