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I mean that's like booing the Lightning connector. It's a known quantity and is no worse this year than last year.


Yes, that's fine. Boo that too.

Why are you against booing bad things? Are you an APPL investor making a lot of money on these choices? If not, I really can't understand your position here.


You're defining "bad things" to suit you. If you boo the lightning connector, I boo a switch to USB-C. Why make me buy all new cables? Why make me replace my nightstand charger?

Boo changes you don't like, okay, fine. Boo the status quo? That's... odd.


Only a small subset of the population has any lightning connectors at all. The present standard is usb-c. Using an out-of-date standard is worth booing. It's like if a monitor continued sticking with dvi and never made the move to displayport or hdmi or usb-c.


USB-C is far from the current standard, it's pretty much only used by flagship Android phones and some laptops. I would say far more people have a lightning device than a USB-C device right now.


You must be living in an entirely different universe because everyone I know uses tons of usb-c all day.

How about the most popular noise cancelling headphones, the Sony 1000XM3 (usb-c). I see them everywhere.

Some laptops? More like all laptops. Find me one being sold now without usb-c. They would be a joke. The best tablet, the iPad Pro is usb-c (though yes I know the lower end ones are lightning).

What about the best video gear. All the best mirrorless video cameras like the Panasonic GH5, Sony A7iii, Nikon Z7, Fuji T-X3, BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, all with usb-c. The best webcam out there, the Logitech Brio with usb-c.

Let's talk about specialty gear. The most popular external disk, Sandisk Portable Extreme with usb-c. The most popular mobile hotspot, the Nighthawk mobile router has usb-c. The most popular audio interface, Focusrite, uses usb-c pretty much for all their products now. The best presentation remote, the Logitech Spotlight is usb-c charging.

Me and my friends have flashlights, shavers, toothbrushes, VR headsets and remotes, all with usb-c. Great for travel.

Basically, any good product being released now is usb-c, and has been for the past couple years.


>I would say far more people have a lightning device than a USB-C device right now.

This seems funny since Android outsells Apple 4 to 1 and Windows outsells Apple 5 to 1, (and Android and Windows use USB-C for phones and laptops respectively). So quick math here would tell you that USB-C penetration is 4 to 5 times more broad than lightning based purely on sales.

EDIT: Also Apple uses USB-C on some laptops, so those numbers would affect it too


But that includes all Androids, for a very long time USB-C was only in the flagship Android phones and even today there are lots of low end Android phones being made that are Micro USB. Plus, lightning has been out for 7 years in all of Apple's mobile products, while USB-C has only been semi-mainstream for 3-4 years.

If I had to rank connectors by how many devices use them it would probably be Micro USB - Lightning - USB-C

Edit: if we include laptops and other non-mobile devices, I would say that normal USB far surpasses everything else usage wise, USB-C seems to only be in the high end laptops and even then most laptops have some normal USB ports as well.


Every existing iPhone user has a lightning connector, and the cable(s) or charger to charge with it.


>You're defining "bad things" to suit you. I

Excuse me? 64GB standard storage for a "PRO" labeled $1000 phone that extensively advertises its professional video capacity is not an arbitrary or personal definition of bad. It's objectively inferior to its competition. It's objectively the lowest storage space of any $1000+ phone on the market.

That you would conflate this discussion to think these are arbitrary opinions seems dishonest.

>"Boo changes you don't like, okay, fine. Boo the status quo? That's... odd."

It seems like you accept predatory profit-driven business decisions as "status quo" even when competitors offer far better options. I don't get your definition of "status quo" when it's synonymous "worst in class".

The Galaxy Note 10 at $1000 comes standard with 256GB, an upgrade which makes the iPhone cost $1150.

But sure, "status quo", as long as the current state of the market and state of competition isn't considered...




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