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This is a very good point.

We keep reading stories with business porn in the titles. Kickstarter is totally awesome, don't get me wrong. And this is a cool idea.

But the critical question is: how the heck did one random idea get so much movement? Because it's not just random, and it's not just generated by quality. If there's one thing I've learned on the web, is that social sites are somewhat deterministic.

So -- wonder what they did? Cross-promote? Blog a lot? Get some good press? That's the kind of stuff that is truly interesting and valuable, not the one mil in funding or even the coolness of the idea or the site.




A good product design, those renderings are eye candy for tech blogs to repost, a great video, and people love rooting for the small guy. It's almost... why wouldn't it get a ton of press.


well how would it get picked up?


That's the kind of case study that would be really valuable for us all as entrepreneurs.

I could make the coolest video in the world but I doubt Kickstarter's random traffic is enough

Is there a good article on doing PR properly? I think it requires knowing people with good connections.


I'll give you a selfish (and self-promotional) example.

I just posted a review on HN of a really great startup book, Do More Faster: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2019914

Now if 5 or 6 of you guys upvote it in the "golden hour" -- the initial hour after entry -- it hits the front page and 20x more people see it, creating a small bit of a cascade reaction. Depending on how many votes it gets in the first hour, there is a somewhat exponential relationship to the eventual total number of votes.

Small groups of people can have large impacts. Knowing this, I sent an email to a few of my friends telling them about my post after I wrote it.

I know to do this because I've been on HN for a while. A voting ring is one thing (and bad), but simply knowing how to work the site is something else. That's the difference between cheating and just making the right moves at the right time. There are a few folks that like my writing, and pointing out to them that I posted something is in both of our best interests. So I think I'm okay doing this.

All sites are like this -- small numbers control larger numbers. There's a lot of theory, and I've read a lot of articles that almost describe what we're talking about, but my experiences with HN was I just had to spend time here and get to know folks.

I can't believe that there aren't shortcuts, but from where I'm sitting not many people are sharing them. And if you think about it, that's probably a good thing. If there were a magic formula, everybody would use it and it would stop working. Then there would be some new magic formula.

No easy answers, but I sure would like some more help on how the things I've learned at HN apply to other places like kickstarter.


hmm, I don't visit hacker news often enough to recognize the nicknames and make friends on here

would it be cool to make a tool that helps you friend people on hacker news and view their profiles? Does something like this already exist?




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