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> In that situation, you'll pay the $20000/week or whatever oaiey quotes you.

I looked into this recently, because I wanted to see if it would be worth learning COBOL to help maintain old banking systems. Unfortunately the pay is nowhere near $20000 / week, and experienced COBOL programmers typically make around $100 per hour, or $70k per year at a full-time job. Right now you can make much more money with modern web and mobile development.

Here's some previous discussion about COBOL rates: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14083214

I was surprised to hear it was only $100/hr, but some people say it might go up to $1000/hr, and one person was making "high six figures". So I don't know. Maybe it's worth getting into if you have some good connections.




I hire about 150 COBOL guys and gals (as full time employees) and they are making in average 100kâ‚Ĵ (European Bank) incl. 1 month holiday.

Big brand contractors cost us around the same.

DBAs, Sys Admins, operators, a bit more.

Having 30y experience myself, from mobile and Java to Mainframe Assembler, I find the older guys - both on mobile (few) and COBOL (most) to be much more focus on engineering a system that lasts whatever you throw at them, while (most, not all) young coders are about speed and hashing something together that works (but needs overhaul after 3-4 years).

Just my own experience, not saying is the only perspective.


> I find the older guys - both on mobile (few) and COBOL (most) to be much more focus on engineering a system that lasts whatever you throw at them, while (most, not all) young coders are about speed and hashing something together that works (but needs overhaul after 3-4 years).

I've noticed that tendency in younger developers too and it's utterly infuriating. Do you do anything to discourage this and, if so, what?


Not the person to whom you replied, but: mentorship. Code review. Talk about means, not just ends.

I was fortunate to be a young developer with a desire to write things that could last, so I skipped a few steps and found myself doing the mentoring perhaps sooner than most, but instilling the notion that this thing needs to continue to function, and rejecting work that isn't in service of that goal, is doable.




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