> You installed an app that can basically do anything onto your device and you're surprised that it did something?
I'd also be surprised if someone who I let get near me then turned around and punched me and stole my wallet. I guess in your book it's my bad for letting them get so close. In real human society, there are norms of behavior one expects others to follow, even though they have the physical ability to violate those norms at any time.
> Stop installing things you don't trust.
So, basically I should burn my computer because I haven't audited all the code that runs on it? Facebook is a Fortune 500 company, they should behave in a trustworthy manner.
> You want them to provide their service to you, but you don't want to pay the price for it.
If they want my phone's address book to be the price, they need to be up-front about it, which they were not and likely still are not.
And I'm pretty sure your next line of attack is to criticize me for not carefully reading every line of their terms of service and not keeping up with all the un-advertised updates they make to it. After all, if you don't spend your life keeping up with legalese, you deserve whatever you get, right?
Facebook is a Fortune 500 company, they should behave in a trustworthy manner.
That train left the station a long time ago.
Facebook will never behave in a trustworthy manner, since it's completely against their business model.
My family scoffed, when I told them that there is no friggin' way that I will ever use WhatsApp. Recent development just proves how right I was.
While I had a FB account until I "deleted" it ca. 2013 I will never again come near any Facebook property, no matter what! This company and it's management is the epitome of scum.
> Facebook will never behave in a trustworthy manner, since it's completely against their business model.
Yeah, I agree Facebook's fundamentally broken and I think it's going to take some kind of GDPR-type regulation to fix things (and hopefully "creatively destroy" it).
The idea that I was arguing for is that their untrustworthiness means Facebook is in error, and it's not the user's error for trusting them at some point and having that trust abused. It's only the former that will justify the kind of regulatory response to bring them to heel, and the latter is mainly a reaction to prevent that reckoning.
Facebook is in error, and it's not the user's error for trusting them at some point and having that trust abused
We have absolutely no argument about this point.
Cutesy passive aggressivenes also doesn't really help their case. It was that, which really turned me off. I couldn't have imagined at that time how dirty that company really is.
I'd also be surprised if someone who I let get near me then turned around and punched me and stole my wallet. I guess in your book it's my bad for letting them get so close. In real human society, there are norms of behavior one expects others to follow, even though they have the physical ability to violate those norms at any time.
> Stop installing things you don't trust.
So, basically I should burn my computer because I haven't audited all the code that runs on it? Facebook is a Fortune 500 company, they should behave in a trustworthy manner.
> You want them to provide their service to you, but you don't want to pay the price for it.
If they want my phone's address book to be the price, they need to be up-front about it, which they were not and likely still are not.
And I'm pretty sure your next line of attack is to criticize me for not carefully reading every line of their terms of service and not keeping up with all the un-advertised updates they make to it. After all, if you don't spend your life keeping up with legalese, you deserve whatever you get, right?