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Yeah, as an "investor" and an employee of several startups, I generally wound up on the losing side of the equation, to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars.

Stuff that amounted to, "Oh, we extinguished those shares, sorry about that," when the corporation was worth several billion.

This stuff is broken. You are far better off working for a mature company with decent management; if you are any good, you won't necessarily have "fuck you" money at the end of ten years, but you'll probably be ahead by several million dollars, and the value of "several" might be pleasantly surprising.



“Surprising several” is at least 3 million over ten years. Which companies pay to “any good” engineers enough to pocket $300k per year, after tax and living expenses?


there are plenty of senior devs at FANG making that. not just machine learning/data scientist magician but just good devs that have been there for 10 years


You'd have to be making 700k+ a year to be banking 300k after tax. Perhaps the valley slipped away from me but I find it hard to believe that there would be average employees in that range.


I did it at a FANG, and it wasn't 700k/year. Admittedly, this is the longest runup in stocks we've had for some time, but just prudent saving and investing (and possibly working for a FANG outside the valley) did it for me.


Your tax math is bad. The pre-tax figure, even with California income tax, is closer to 500k than 700k.

And some of that 300k/year difference is coming from growth of invested savings, not just W-2 income.


So “any good” engineers are making $500k now?

I haven’t been on the market in a while, seems like I fell behind the times.


I never made that claim, and you're ignoring investment gains.




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